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“When I think about death and dying, and how I want to die, it actually brings me closer to how I want to live.”

— Jovan Sage

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We continue the conversation by asking Jovan about ancestral healing and land practices, which you can find here.

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Jovan invites us into a radical reimagining of death—not as something to resist, but as an ally to walk with. Grounded in the four foundations of her deathwork—death as teacher, letting go as art, uncertainty as the deepest lesson, and the calling as guide—she shares how these principles shape both her practice as a death midwife and her way of life.

Drawing from her experience as a queer youth organizer and in her work with breath and relational practices, Jovan weaves stories of community care, grief, and intimacy. She speaks to how queerness has radicalized her relationship with death and life, how uncertainty invites us to anchor in what matters most, and how tending to fear with tenderness can open us to deeper love.

At its core, this is a conversation about becoming more death-literate, about remembering that grief and love are kin, and about living in a way that prepares us to die with integrity, connection, and grace.

Find Thematic Show Notes Here

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Hearthwoven

WHR Website

Tei’s Biosite

Free Insight Call

Coyotei Counsel Website

WHR/Coyotei Newsletter

Coyotei Counsel Instagram

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