John invites singer and songwriter Josh Garrels back into the podcast studio to talk about the difference between knowing about God and knowing God, friendship with Jesus, how to risk well in loving others, and Josh's song "What A Friend."

Show Notes: Josh Garrels' song "What A Friend" from his Chrysaline album is used with permission and available wherever you get music.

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