If you're feeling like this world is an increasingly unstable place, you're not alone...or crazy. During moments of intense global transition and shaking, it's helpful to have an accessible voice explain the historical and cultural forces at work from a Christian worldview. In this two-part series, Mark Sayers joins John and Blaine Eldredge for a fascinating, globe-spanning conversation. In Part 1, he explains how we're actually living between two eras—what he refers to as the 'gray zone'— and the ambiguity, challenges, and opportunities of such times.

Show Notes: Mark Sayers' website is marksayers.co. Listen to his Rebuilders podcast at rebuilders.co/podcast.

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