In this restless world, satisfaction is fleeting. Rather than chasing after success and validation, what if we began pursuing meaning and refuge? John invites Matt Fradd, noted author and host of the Pints With Aquinas podcast, to discuss how our lives would radically change if we took Christ seriously, stopped seeking false comforts, and found our true refuge in Jesus.

Show Notes: The books referenced are Jesus Our Refuge by Matt Fradd, The Porn Myth by Matt Fradd, Restored by Matt and Cameron Fradd, and The Dumb Ox by G. K. Chesterton. Robert Barron’s video on St. Thomas Aquinas can be found on his website, WordOnFire.org. 

Keywords: Wild at Heart, Matt Fradd, Christian, Podcast
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