The Inner Game of Change

E92 - CIOs, AI, And The Change Wind Ahead - Podcast With Greg Sawyer


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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. 

Every so often, I like to step outside and look at what I call the Outer Game of Change—that wider perspective where leaders and influencers shape the systems we all work within.

Today, I am joined by Greg Sawyer, CEO of CAUDIT, the Council of Australasian University Directors of IT. Greg has been at the centre of some of the most pressing conversations in higher education—AI, cybersecurity, the evolving role of CIOs, and the signals shaping our future through CAUDIT’s annual Top 10. For nearly two decades, the Top 10 has been a compass for CIOs, surfacing the sector’s priorities and giving leaders a shared language to act on.

In this conversation, Greg shares why IT is not a cost centre but an enabler, how CIOs are stepping up as strategic leaders, and why sharing knowledge across institutions is one of the sector’s greatest superpowers.

I truly enjoyed this exchange with Greg and I know you will find it insightful too.


About Greg

Seasoned leader and technologist. I have worn many hats in my career - geek, engineer, manager, director, architect, program/ project manager, security, cybersecurity, and soldier. As a result, I have a unique ability to lead multi-disciplinary teams, lead strategic delivery and projects to navigate complex challenges. This unique focus and experience has taught my professional value boils down to:

- I don’t care who gets the credit. I just want to win. I know how to get things done to make it happen.
- Relationships matter and they make work fun. 
- I speak many languages – geek, executive, designer, customer, board member, plain English and difficult client. Listening rather than speaking makes the difference.
- I have been in technology and communication for most of my life. It’s what I do.
- Leading people comes naturally.
- I make decisions, I own my decisions and can admit to wrong decisions. But I then own moving that forward to the outcome.
- I don’t know everything, but I can learn quickly to make informed decisions.
- I dance in the storm.

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linkedin.com/in/sawyergreg

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