Conversations about money have a way of making people uncomfortable—especially in the church. In this episode, John and Don sit down with Jim Johnson, the executive director of global and generosity partnerships at Eagle Brook, for an honest conversation about why money and generosity matter and how we can talk about both in ways that feel normal, practical, and approachable.

In this episode, John and Don sit down with Andrew Hermann to explore what it means to be an effective communicator using the FLOP method—Focus, Listen & Link, Own/Others’ Stories, and Preparation. They break down each element with practical insight and real-life application, helping you communicate more clearly, connect more deeply, and lead conversations with purpose.