In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Mike Baer is joined by Steve Rundle—economist, professor, and one of the early voices shaping the Business as Mission (BAM) movement.

They explore the deep integration of theology, economics, and entrepreneurship, challenging the idea that ministry and business are separate callings. Steve shares insights from decades of teaching and research, speaks to common misconceptions about BAM, and offers honest reflection on the evolution of the movement.

Whether you’re an academic, a practitioner, or just wondering if business really has Kingdom potential—this episode is packed with wisdom, history, and faith-rooted clarity.

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