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On this episode of the Conduit Street Podcast, Michael Sanderson sits down with Dr. Roger E. Hartley of the University of Baltimore’s College of Public Affairs for a wide-ranging discussion on the future of public service in Maryland.
Hartley reflects on his decade as dean and discusses how institutions of higher learning can better partner with state and local governments to strengthen leadership pipelines, modernize workforce training, and meet emerging challenges. Drawing on the Certified Public Manager program and paid public service internships, the conversation explores how to fill that county-university gap.
They also examine broader themes facing public service today, such as an aging workforce, breaking down silos between agencies, and the need for interdisciplinary solutions to health, housing, and sustainability.
In true Conduit Street fashion, this episode even ventures into music, craft beer, and Dr. Hartley’s plans visit all 122 Maryland breweries.
If you care about the future of local government, workforce development, and the evolving mission of public service, this podcast episode was recorded just for you!
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On this episode of the Conduit Street Podcast, Michael Sanderson sits down with Dr. Roger E. Hartley of the University of Baltimore’s College of Public Affairs for a wide-ranging discussion on the future of public service in Maryland.
Hartley reflects on his decade as dean and discusses how institutions of higher learning can better partner with state and local governments to strengthen leadership pipelines, modernize workforce training, and meet emerging challenges. Drawing on the Certified Public Manager program and paid public service internships, the conversation explores how to fill that county-university gap.
They also examine broader themes facing public service today, such as an aging workforce, breaking down silos between agencies, and the need for interdisciplinary solutions to health, housing, and sustainability.
In true Conduit Street fashion, this episode even ventures into music, craft beer, and Dr. Hartley’s plans visit all 122 Maryland breweries.
If you care about the future of local government, workforce development, and the evolving mission of public service, this podcast episode was recorded just for you!
Check out Pitchfork's 50 Best Albums of 2025
Follow us on Socials!
MACo on Twitter
MACo on Facebook

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