Ali Maxwell and Colin Murray reflect on their experiences working on Saturday night EFL highlights shows on Channel 5 and Quest 2017-2022, discussing the challenges, successes, and the importance of storytelling in football.

They delve into the show's production dynamics, the behind-the-scenes efforts that contribute to successful live broadcasts, the specifics of EFL coverage, and discuss whether there is still a need for a terrestrial EFL highlights show in a landscape filled with quick highlights.

The conversation finishes with stories of Colin stitching up Ali with make-up, and trying to get Ivan Toney to play for Northern Ireland.

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