Eileen Morley & Richard Bird are our guests this week - interviewed brilliantly by my friend Margaret Bouttell.

Eileen and Richard are now the Australian trainers for pilgrims wishing to become hospitaleros and hospitaleras, taking over from the wonderful Julie-Anne Milne. Richard and Eileen have volunteered at a number of albergues across Spain.

In this episode of the podcast, why YOU should consider becoming a hospitalero or hospitalera, giving back to the Camino.

I'll be back as soon as my doctors tell me I can start talking again. Until then, blessings from Sydney. Dan