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What would you sacrifice to pursue your truest creative calling? For Elaine Garvey, the answer spans decades of her life, multiple career shifts, and countless moments of self-doubt.

The Financial Times has already hailed her debut novel "The Wardrobe Department" as the "Best Debut of 2025," but this recognition comes after a twenty-year journey filled with rejections, financial insecurity, and unwavering determination. "If I came home and said to family, I want to be a writer," Garvey laughs, "you might as well say I want to be a horse."

This conversation between two passionate writers crackles with authenticity as they explore the hidden realities of creative pursuits. Garvey opens up about the profound financial barriers that keep many working-class voices out of publishing, revealing how she deliberately stepped down from a promotion to create mental space for her writing. 

Whether you're a creative struggling to find your place, someone fascinated by the hidden dynamics of theatrical workplaces, or simply curious about how stories come to life, this conversation offers both practical wisdom and emotional sustenance. Discover why, despite all obstacles, Garvey believes that "if all the world fell away, we would still be doing this."

The Wardrobe Department

Mairéad works all hours in a run-down West End theatre's wardrobe department, her whole existence made up of threads and needles, running errands to mend shoes, fixing broken zips and handwashing underwear. She must also do her best to avoid groping hands backstage and the terrible bullying of the show's producer.

But, despite her skill and growing experience, half of Mairéad remains in her windy, hedge-filled home in Ireland, and the life she abandoned there. In noughties London, she has the potential to be somebody completely new - why, then, does she feel so stuck? Between the bustling side streets of Soho, and the wet grass of Leitrim and Donegal, Mairéad is caught, running from the girl she was but unable to reveal the woman she'd hoped to become.

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