Chocolate Mouse, anyone? Rosemary’s Baby was a smash hit on release - the best selling horror novel of the 1960s, eventually selling over 4 million copies. The year after publication it was adapted into one of the greatest films of the decade - directed by Roman Polanski with Mia Farrow as the eponymous heroine.  

At first glance, it seems that Ira Levin’s story was at odds with the prevailing spirit of free love - read the room, baby! But as we’re going to find out - the secret of Rosemary’s Baby is that it perfectly captured the spirit and anxieties of the age. Ira Levin would repeat the trick with the Stepford Wives in 1972 and The Boys From Brazil in 1976, but Rosemary’s Baby is his masterpiece. A book which is simultaneously an outlandish fantasy and one of the greatest novels about coercive gaslighting relationships. 

Sophie and Jonty ask a tough question: is Levin's depiction of a coercive relationship just too real? Do we come away feeling that Rosemary has real power and agency that speaks to us now, or is the book's depiction of domestic violence and misogyny and trapped in its own cultural moment just as much as the stuffed mushrooms and Gibsons the couple consume on the fateful night that the horror takes hold?

Content Warning: the book and film — and this conversation — contain descriptions of sexual violence, rape and abusive relationships.

Books and Film Referred to:

Ira Levin, Rosemary's Baby

Roman Polanski, Rosemary's Baby

F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby

Jane Austen, Emma

J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye

Tom Wolfe, The Bonfire of the Vanities

Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique

Charlotte Bronte, Jane Eyre

Adrienne Rich, "In the Evening"

Valerie Solanas, SCUM Manifesto

Andrea Dworkin, Women Hating

Julia Kristeva, Powers of Horror

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Who's afraid of American horror? Sophie and Jonty, for starters. To celebrate halloween, SLOB is taking a deep dive into three classics of the American Horror genre. We've chosen novels published after 1945, and we're asking how the war - and its many aftershocks and resonances in American domestic and political life - transformed horror as a literary genre. We won't spoil the surprises by telling you all the titles ahead of time. But be warned: read and listen at your own peril.

We’ll be looking at these books in chronological order. The first is Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House, published in 1959 and is now considered one of the most influential horror novels of all time. It is beautifully written, incredibly funny and genuinely scary. It's imbued with a spirit of cynicism and evil. As a result it disorientated many readers who knew Jackson not as a horror writer, but for her charming memoirs about life as a housewife in 1950s suburbia.

Join us as we enter the locked gates of Hill House and explore how this gripping, poignant, strange — and above all, scary — ghost story took shape and how Shirley Jackson came to be regarded as one of the greatest mid-century American writers.

Further Reading and listening:

Shirley Jackson, "Life Among the Savages" (1953)

Shirley Jackson, "The Haunting of Hill House" (1959)

Shirley Jackson, "We Have Always Lived in the Castle" (1962)

Ruth Franklin, Shirley Jackson: A Rather Haunted Life, 2016

On the Road with Penguin Classics Halloween episode with Ruth Franklin: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-haunting-of-hill-house-with-ruth/id1549179379?i=1000633191567

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Jonty and Sophie were separated by an ocean while Sophie and her family went back to New York and Jonty stayed in Sydney - so they made lemonade out of life's lemons, and created two miniature episodes about the great 16th-century French essayist Michel de Montaigne.

Montaigne isn't just any old essayist — he's the man who invented the form, with three volumes of brilliant, surprising, constantly fresh and astonishingly modern sallies on every possible topic. To introduce Montaigne and unpack his brilliance and immense influence, Sophie talked to the Renaissance scholar Stephen Greenblatt. Meanwhile, Sydney-side, Jonty had a conversation with the historian and writer Rowan Tomlinson, a specialist on Montaigne and Renaissance studies at the University of Bristol. They take the Montaigne chat in many unexpected directions, and Jonty initiates discussion of the Reformation off his own bat, with Sophie nowhere to be found.

Further Reading:

The Complete Essays of Michel de Montaigne, (Penguin 1993)

Sarah Bakewell, How to Live: Or A Life of Montaigne in One Question and Twenty Attempts at an Answer, (2011)

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Sophie talks to one of the world's leading literary scholars, who co-founded a whole branch of literary studies known as "The New Historicism," before reinventing Shakespeare for new generations of readers, and then turning the Roman poet Lucretius into an (almost) household name. Stephen Greenblatt is professor of English at Harvard University, he's a Pulitzer Prize winner and the author of Will in the World, The Swerve, and a host of other acclaimed and brilliant books. Most recently he's the author of Dark Renaissance, the story of Shakespeare's rival and shadow double, Christopher Marlowe.

But today he talks about the writer he turns to whenever he thinks about what makes the Renaissance so distinct a period -- the age in which Europeans truly became modern. That writer is the great French essayist Michel de Montaigne. Montaigne is a stealth heavy-hitter, an MVP of classic literature who is now all too rarely read. To explain what makes Montaigne's influence and legacy so important, and why he's truly one of the GOATs, Sophie and Jonty have decided to bring you two companion conversations with a pair of very different scholars.

Further Reading:

Stephen Greenblatt, ed. Shakespeare's Montaigne: The Florio Translation of the Essays (2014)

Stephen Greenblatt, Dark Renaissance: The Dangerous Times and Fatal Genius of Shakspeare's Greatest Rival (2025)

Stephen Greenblatt, The Swerve: How the World Became Modern (2012)

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The label says what's in the tin: Secret Life of Books dives deep into weddings and funerals in literature, asking why they become iconic moments to hang a story on. Family strife, betrayal, love, passion, disappointment and hope are all bound up in these major life events where we see characters' true colors and desires writ large.

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With The Moonstone, Wilkie Collins published yet another giant sensation, this time pioneering the detective novel and mystery/heist genre. It was published in 1868 and serialised - just as The Woman White was - in Dickens’ All the Year Round, making it one of the most popular books of Victorian Britain. Jonty and Sophie will show how The Moonstone gave the world most of the key ingredients of the detective genre, which have remained unchanged ever since. The country house setting. The bungling local constabulary. The celebrated, ingenious but curmedgeonly investigator. A large cast of false suspects. Plenty of red herrings. A final twist in the plot in which the least likely suspects suddenly become implicated. It's all here.

If all The Moonstone did was shape a new genre of literature, we’d still be talking about it. But on top of that, Wilkie Collins’ masteripece is also a critique of colonialism, of the British caste system and Victorian morality. 

And it reveals a fascinating shadow story about Wilkie Collins and his life, including a long struggle with opium addiction that he used to treat pain, making this a novel written mostly in an hallucinatory state.

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As part of our ongoing “That’s Classic!” series, we're joined by the wonderful Jennifer Egan to chat about the sensational thriller The Woman in White.

Jennifer is one of the most loved, admired and critically acclaimed writers in America, with fans all over the world. Jennifer is a Pulitzer Prize winner and was President of the vitally important PEN America. She's the author of many books, including the brilliant, genre-defying Visit from the Goon Squad and its follow up The Candy House. There's more than a touch of gothic in her writing, alongside the compelling social realism, so when we asked her to choose a classic that matters, we were thrilled that she chose Wilkie Collins' The Woman in White.

This gripping page-turner and perennial bestseller was published between 1859-60 in Charles Dickens’ serial All the Year Round. It's a gothic page-tuner about a mysterious young woman dressed entirely in white, who becomes the key to a thrilling tale of emotional entrapment and gaslighting in Victorian England. Jennifer joins Sophie in a brilliant discussion of why The Woman in White is such a literary touchstone, paving the way for modern thrillers including Gone Girl and The Girl on the Train.

Further Reading:

Wilkie Collins, The Woman in White

Jennifer Egan, A Visit From the Goon Squad

Jennifer Egan, The Candy House

Jennifer Egan, The Keep

Jennifer Egan, Manhattan Beach

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The Woman in White was a sensation when it was serialised in Charles Dickens’ magazine All The Year Round in 1859 and 1860. It begins with an uncanny late-night meeting on the road to London between a young man and a woman dressed entirely in white. It ends with a sensational cat and mouse game between a villain and his pursuers. One of the unsung secrets of Wilkie Collins's novel is the brilliant, unorthodox counter-heroine Marian Halcombe. Another is that Wilkie Collins identified with disfigurement and disability, and used the woman in white to explore some of his own sense of being an outsider.

At the time it Collins's novel belonged to new kind of writing called sensation fiction, which today we call thrillers. It aimed to shock the public by preying on their deepest anxieties, going beyond the facade of Victorian respectability to show ordinary families riven by secrets, including illegitimacy, adultery, madness and criminal activity. The literary inheritors of The Woman in White today are novels like The Girl on the Train and Gone Girl.

Find out how it all started - and why The Woman in White is still a compulsive page-turner 150 years later.

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For several weeks we've been recording a subscribers-only mini series on the history of the sonnet in English. Sonnets are crowd-pleasers - short, sometimes sweet, and they always deliver a lot of bang for the reading buck.

Today, one of the world's great living poets, Paul Muldoon, Pulitzer Prize winner and former poetry editor of the New Yorker, joins us to talk about the pleasures and challenges of this glorious short form.

Paul has recently compiled a spectacular anthology of sonnets, Scanty Plot of Ground, published this month by Faber in the UK.

Making this episode free for all because it's such a special conversation and gateway back into reading the classics.

Listeners to our show can order the book from faber.co.uk and enter the code Podcast25 for a discount with UK shipping.

Paul Muldoon, ed, Scanty Plot of Ground, Faber 2025

Paul Muldoon, Joy in Service on Rue Tagore, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 2025

Paul Muldoon, Horse Latitudes, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 2006

Paul Muldoon, Moy Sand and Gravel, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 2004

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It was five o’clock on a winter’s morning in Syria. Alongside the platform at Aleppo stood the train grandly designated in railway guides as the Taurus Express. So Agatha Christie began her sleeper [car] hit, Murder on the Orient Express (1934).

All aboard! In the latest of SLoB's much-loved special episodes on surprising, fun, and always deeply revealing literary themes, Sophie and Jonty take an all-stations train journey through literary locomotion.

One of life's great pleasures is reading a good book on a train, as it rattles through scenic countryside. But what's more annoying than cramming onto a packed underground train at 8am, desperate for a moment with a book before work, only to be wedged between an armpit and a stroller? Trains are social levelers: a means of bringing unlikely people together; and often keeping them apart. Trains help tell stories about social divisions and distinctions in status, love affairs and heartbreak, unwanted changes in landscapes and the ever-increasing encroachments of modern life.

Tune in to find out why, in short, trains are at the heart of many great books, and why train travel turned out to be the ideal metaphor for the experience of reading modern fiction.

Books mentioned in this episode:

George Eliot, Middlemarch

Henry David Thoreau, Walden

Charles Dickens, Our Mutual Friend, "The Signal Man"

Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

Bram Stoker, Dracula

Agatha Christie, Murder on the Orient Express

J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

Graham Greene, The Little Train

Lev Grossman, The Silver Arrow

Edward Thomas "Adlestrop"

Jilly Cooper, Rivals

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