Have efforts to reform the American political system backfired? Do changes in rules for campaign financing, redistricting, government transparency and election administration have unintended and undesirable consequences? On this special Episode 4 of the ELB Podcast, we hear from Bruce Cain, author of the terrific new book, Democracy, More or Less, and four scholars offering critiques of Cain's book. Listen to a September 2015 panel on Cain's new book at the American Political Science Association's annual meeting in San Francisco.