Rev. Jim Harden is the president and CEO of CompassCare Pregnancy Services in New York. For Reverend Harden, making America great again requires making America moral again and he sees an opportunity for just that with Trump back in the White House. That means an opportunity for the church as well. He also noted that the government doesn't have the ability to make America moral but it does have the ability to reward those who do good and to punish those who do bad things. Vice President Kamala Harris centered her election efforts almost entirely on abortion, although she called it "reproductive choice." Reverend Harden called her defeat a "sound beating" signaling that the American people want to distance themselves from abortion just as they distanced themselves from the abortion czar. Tim Walz also shares blame as he signed a bill that allows abortion through all nine months of pregnancy in Minnesota. Reverend Harden believes that such abortion efforts use women, under the guise of reproductive rights, to gain power. Proof of this could be seen when they were confronted with the question of when, during a pregnancy, should there not be an abortion. The default answer was that they simply wanted to see Roe v. Wade reinstated. In addition, they'd deny that late term abortions were even taking place. Critical to this issue concerns who President-elect Trump will appoint as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Also discussed was abortion on the ballot, the Wisconsin 1849 abortion bill, what Trump can do to promote life, the stockpiling of the abortion pill and more.