Why have leading publications been obsessed with Donald Trump for so long? What's the master thesis behind political and cultural schisms in the US? And why are the nation's elite all talk and no walk about social justice? Zachary and Emma speak with Musa Al-Gharbi, sociologist and author of "We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite." They discuss The New York Times and other publications' fascination with Donald Trump as a politician over the years, the journey of "jumping class," and how Ivy League universities are schools for elites that turn away the disadvantaged.

What Could Go Right? is produced by The Progress Network and The Podglomerate.

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