What if the blueprint for a life you love wasn't more strength, more effort, or more grit, but a deeper capacity to love and forgive?
In this Season 9 opening episode, Anthea Bell sits down with world-renowned Enneagram expert, psychotherapist and author Dr. Deborah Egerton for an honest conversation about the transformative power of love as a force for healing our own wounds, and those of a fractured, often divided world.
You'll hear why seeing the good in others (and yourself) is anything but naïve, and how connection is the antidote to isolation and survival mode. Deborah shares how suffering can be the wake-up call that cracks open our narrow perspectives and moves us toward compassion and unity.
Together they explore healing generational trauma, the tension between nurture and dominion, the pivotal importance of the female voice, and what it means to lead from the divine feminine in our own lives and in the wider work of global healing.
It's an invitation to let your light shine, to move from resentment to gratitude, and to remember that real change starts one person at a time.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro: Meet Deborah Egerton
02:09 Seeing the good in everyone
06:19 Why suffering wakes us up to change
13:00 Women's voices and the divine feminine
14:35 Nurture over dominion: why the world needs a softer hand
18:28 Working with "the bad parts" of ourselves
19:45 How women are conditioned to self-silence
24:02 Finding your core purpose to move through fear
26:03 Using the Enneagram to face your core fear
29:09 How the "I am not loved" story blocks abundance
39:23 Why lack of self-love sits at the root of giving and receiving
48:54 Compulsive giving, and "doing more with less"
55:10 Daily gratitude and shifting your attention
01:05:50 Closing prayer
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About Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton
Affectionately known as Dr. E, Deborah is a bestselling author, TEDx speaker, internationally acclaimed keynote speaker, respected psychotherapist, and an advocate for unity and belonging in the healing of humanity. A former President of the International Enneagram Association, she holds IEA Certification with Distinction for her groundbreaking use of the Enneagram to bridge historical divides and dismantle the practice of "othering." As a consultant, coach, mentor and spiritual teacher, she guides people from all walks of life toward harmonious unification. Her books include the #1 Amazon New Release "Know Justice Know Peace," "Enneagram Made Easy," and the nine-part "Enneagram Inner Work Journals."
Connect with Deborah:
Website: https://www.deborahegerton.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enneagramjedi/
Working together, beyond the podcast
If something in this episode landed in your body, there are a few doors open to you.
For 1:1 coaching, this is a bespoke and intimate partnership, curated by you and who you know you can become. If you're a woman of unmistakable talent who has hit a ceiling, in confidence, in bandwidth, in the career you're building, this is deep, targeted work. Together we locate the blocks in body, mind and context, and cultivate what it takes to move beyond them.
For a compact immersion, the Embodiment Coach Training runs each year. Applications for the September 2026 cohort are now closed, but you're welcome to join the waitlist for the next intake at [email protected].
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Connect with Anthea:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ab_embodiment/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@embodied_anthea/videos
Substack: https://antheabell1.substack.com/
Website: https://www.ab-embodimentcoaching.org/