Embodiment for the Rest of Us

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 12: Season 4 Wrap-Up

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up season 4 by reviewing their words of the year for 2024 and 2025, renewed invitations for unmasking while recording, re-commitments to anti-oppression, and season 5 coming in 2026!

Content Warning: Mention of the multiple genocides occurring globally

Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-12-season-4-wrap-up/#captions

A few highlights:

2:06: Chavonne and Jenn discuss their words for 2024 and 2025

3:22: Jenn and Chavonne share how these words have shown up in their lives and the podcast

10:41: Chavonne and Jenn discuss cultural shifts in embodiment, including a re-commitment to anti-oppressive direction

Links from this episode:

Imani Barbarin

Intersectionality

Matrix of Domination

Morgan Harper Nichols

Neurodivergence

Nicola Haggett

Dr. Rachel Fox

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 11: Nikki Haggett

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Nikki Haggett (they/she) in a deep dive about relating across difference, murmuration as metaphor, and a sacred unmasking.

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of the multiple genocides occurring globally,discussion of fascism, mention of childhood sexual abuse

Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-11-nikki-haggett/#captions

A few highlights:

12:37: Nikki discusses the idea of embodiment while recognizing our own neurodivergence

30:05: Nikki discusses how training to be a Gestalt therapist is impacting their own embodiment

1:20:56: Nikki shares help she helps clients them notice how to stay embodied or even purposefully disembodied

1:33:59: Nikki discusses what’s next for them

Links from this episode:

Ableism

Adam Wolfond

Autism

Autistic Masking

Bodymind

Co-regulation

Exteroception

Gestalt Therapy

Interoception

Dr. Margaret Price

Murmuration

Sanism

The Telepathy Tapes

Window of Regulation

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 10: Dr. Rachel Fox, PhD

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Dr. Rachel Fox, PhD (she/her) about her embodiment journey! Specifically we talk about having a clinically fat ass and passion projects (aka the dissertation Doctor Fox just defended last Tuesday!!!)

Dr. Rachel Fox is an Assistant Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at Grand Valley State University. She is also a Kroner Family Fellow, Judith and Neil Morgan Fellow, and UC President's Dissertation Year Fellow in the Communication Department, Science Studies Program, and Critical Gender Studies Graduate Specialization at UC San Diego. Her dissertation will be available as an open access document in 1 or 2 months from this episode’s publication. She holds a BA in Biology from Wesleyan University, an MS in Narrative Medicine from Columbia University, and an MA in Communication from UC San Diego. Her research has been published in the Fat Studies Journal, Women’s Studies: An Interdisciplinary Journal, and the Journal of Applied Social Psychology. In 2021, she joined the Centre for Fat Liberation and Scholarship as an Inaugural Junior Fellow. Her research critically examines how anti-obesity efforts drive anti-fatness in the US and how the field of weight stigma research perpetuates anti-fatness through its refusal to divest from an anti-obesity agenda.

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of the multiple genocides occurring globally, discussion of intentional weight loss (including GLP-1 drugs), discussion of ABA (Applied Behavior Analysis)

Trigger Warnings: 

This episode uses the word “obesity” throughout without being bleeped.

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-10-doctor-rachel-fox/#captions

A few highlights:

10:03: Rachel shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

18:35: Rachel discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

27:07: Rachel shares her passion project and how it has affected her own embodiment

1:31:21: Rachel discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

1:35:17: Rachel shares where to be found and what’s next for her

Links from this episode:

Autism

Blakeley H. Payne

The Body is Not An Apology (Book)

The Body is Not An Apology (IG)

Decolonizing Therapy

Mikey Mercedes

Monica Kriete

Neurodivergence

OCD

Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

Public Health’s Power-Neutral, Fatphobic Obsession with “Food Deserts”

Rowan Hildebrand-Chupp

Sonya Renee Taylor

Weight Stigma Conference

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 9: Rachel Fox

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Rachel Fox (she/her) about her embodiment journey

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of the multiple genocides occurring globally, discussion of intentional weight loss (including GLP-1 drugs)

Trigger Warnings: 

This episode will use the word obesity throughout without being bleeped.

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-9-rachel-fox/#captions

A few highlights:

14:00: Rachel shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

20:44: Rachel names her privileges and marginalizations

42:11: Rachel discusses how the pandemic has affected her embodiment practices

1:26:24: Rachel shares where to be found and what’s next for her

Links from this episode:

ADHD

Against Progress

Autism

Blakeley H. Payne

Dr. Caleb Luna

The Fantasy of Being Thin

Hegemonic Futurity

Heavy: An American Memoir

Dr. Kate Harding

Kiese Laymon

Kyriarchy

Mikey Mercedes

Monica Kriete

Neurodivergence

Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

Positionality

Rachel Fox

Relative Fat vs. Absolute Fat

Reproductive Futurity

Rowan Hildebrand-Chupp

Settler Colonialism

Tiana Dodson

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 8: Third and Final Deep Dive (this season hehe) with Lindley Ashline

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) for the final of a three-part deep dive about embodiment

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of current politics

Trigger Warnings: 

None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-8-lindley-ashline/#captions

A few highlights:

22:36: Lindley discusses her thin privilege series on social media

38:09: Lindley shares her boundaries when doing social media work

Links from this episode:

Autism

Jes Baker

Bri Campos

Lindley’s Master List of Resources

Megan Jayne Crabbe

Fearing the Black Body

Rahaeli

Sonya Renee Taylor

Accounts that Highlight the Intersection of Fatness and Disability

Imani Barbarin - https://www.instagram.com/crutches_and_spice/

Val - https://www.instagram.com/val_and.co/

J Aprileo - https://www.instagram.com/jayaprileo/

Corissa sometimes talks about disability - https://www.instagram.com/fatgirlflow/

Shilo George - https://www.instagram.com/shilogeorge/

FLARE - https://www.flareproject.org/

Sarah - https://www.instagram.com/fromsarahlex/ 

https://www.instagram.com/fatdisabledworthy/ ← project by Sarah (prior link)

Clarkisha - https://www.instagram.com/clarkishakent/ (writer often featuring the particular intersection of disability and fatness)

Dan - https://x.com/notdanhastings

Sydneysky G. - https://www.instagram.com/syddskyy/

Adrie Rose - https://www.instagram.com/adrierising/

Sami Schalk - https://www.instagram.com/fierceblackfemme

Jervae - https://www.instagram.com/jervae

Vinny - https://www.instagram.com/fierce.fatty

Sonny Jane Wise - https://www.instagram.com/livedexperienceeducator/

Angel Austin - https://www.instagram.com/sacredspaceforfatbodies/

Leah - https://www.instagram.com/fativism/

https://www.instagram.com/disabilitydecember/ ← yearly reading challenge

Mikey - https://www.instagram.com/fatmarquisele

Tigress - https://www.instagram.com/iofthetigress/ 

Dr Whitney Trotter - https://www.instagram.com/whitneytrotter.rd/ 

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 7: Deep Dive with Lindley Ashline

Jenn (she/they), Chavonne (she/her), and Mayaneli (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment as partnership with our bodies.

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, Discussion of medical fatphobia

Trigger Warnings: 

1:14:57: Jenn mentions a fatness category that might be triggering

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-7-lindley-ashline/#captions

A few highlights:

3:49: Lindley shares the pond as a metaphor for embodiment

41:47: Lindley discusses the Body Liberation Blanket Fort

1:12:03: Lindley shares how disability as a framework feels related to embodiment conversations

Links from this episode:

ADHD

Autism

Corrisa Enneking

Diabetes

Dr. Shai-Akil McLean

Fat Woman with Surgery Scar Stock Photo

Fatness Spectrum

FLARE Project

Imani Barbarin

Intersectionality: Key Concepts

J Aprileo

Kimberle Crenshaw

The Matrix of Domination

Models of Disability

Neurodivergence

Nicola Haggett

Nicola Haggett’s Embodiment Journey

Shilo George

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 6: Deep Dive with Lindley Ashline

Jenn (she/they), Chavonne (she/her), and Mayaneli (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment as partnership with our bodies.

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, Discussion of medical fatphobia

Trigger Warnings: 

44:33: Lindley mentions death threats 

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-6-lindley-ashline/#captions

A few highlights:

5:43: Lindley shares embodiment as conversation and/or partnership with our bodies

35:45: Lindley discusses “capitalist mythology” in the average body positivity/liberation conversation

1:45:13: Lindley shares the idea of embodiment as a practice of depth and clarity

Links from this episode:

ADHD

Alan Levinovitz

Autism

Blue Sky

Fearing the Black Body

Harm Reduction

Jes Baker

KC Davis

Neathery Falchuk

Neurodivergence

Roxane Gay

The 11 Reasons Why People Hate Fat People

White Supremacy Culture

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 5: Deep Dive with Michelle Phillips

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Michelle Phillips (they/them/we) for a deep dive about attending and attuning to the body, unconscious contracts with the systems that affect us, and loving accountability.

Content Warning: discussion of intentional weight loss, discussion of multiple genocides taking place at this time

Trigger Warnings: None in this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-5-michelle-phillips/#captions

A few highlights:

8:53: Michelle discusses the simplicities and complexities (equally) of embodiment as we go about our daily lives

Links from this episode:

Neurodivergence

Polyvagal Theory

Vagus Nerve

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 4: Imani Barbarin

Chavonne (she/her), Jenn (she/they), and Maya (she/her)  interviewed Imani (she/her/hers) about her embodiment journey.

Imani Barbarin is a disability rights and inclusion activist and speaker who uses her voice and social media platforms to create conversations engaging the disability community. Born with cerebral palsy, Imani often writes and uses her platform to speak from the perspective of a disabled Black woman. In the last few years she has created over a dozen trending hashtags that allow disabled folk the opportunity to have their perspectives heard while forcing the world to take notice. #PatientsAreNotFaking, #ThingsDisabledPeopleKnow, #AbledsAreWeird and others each provide a window into disabled life while forming community. Imani is from the Philadelphia area and holds a Masters in Global Communications from the American University of Paris, her published works include those in Forbes, Rewire, Healthline, BitchMedia and more. She runs the blog CrutchesAndSpice.com and a podcast of the same name.

Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of medicalized racism, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, mentions of ableism, mentions of suicide, discussion of ageism

Trigger Warnings:

58:30: Imani discusses weight loss surgery and eating disorders

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-4-imani-barbarin/#captions

A few highlights:

4:47: Imani shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

19:40: Imani discusses how the pandemic has affected her embodiment practices 

47:22: Imani shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

59:33: Imani discusses her work with social media misinformation/disinformation and disability advocacy

1:14:11: Imanin shares how her embodiment around phobias and -isms

1:16:51: Imani discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

1:24:24: Imani shares where to be found and what’s next for her

Links from this episode:

Ableism

American with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA)

Autism

Harriet Tubman Collective

Iron Lung

Movement for Black Lives

Multiple Models of Disability

PA Act 77

The Protest Psychosis

Runaway Slave Syndrome

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 3: Niyera Hewlett

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Niyera (they/them) about their embodiment journey.

Niyera (they/them) is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in New Mexico and North Carolina who supervises counseling students, social work students, and licensed associates. They founded a queer and neurodivergent affirming mental health agency in Albuquerque that can be found at: youmeandtherapy.com. They work from an anti-oppressive, relational lens that helps inform how they approach supervision and therapy. They specialize in working with marginalized communities, complex trauma, dissociation, and much more. They are a trans non-binary neurodivergent human of Middle Eastern descent, raised by an immigrant mother. They reside in New Mexico with their spouse, two children, and three cats. In their spare time, they spend a lot of time imagining and writing fantasy stories as a special interest. 

Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

Trigger Warnings:

53:24: Chavonne uses “crazy” in a way that is ableist.

The captions for this episode can be found at

A few highlights:

3:54: Niyera shares their understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

9:28: Niyera discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices 

28:14: Niyera shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges

31:42: Niyera discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

42:55: Niyera shares how their own work and supporting clients has changed and challenged their relationship with their own embodiment 

1:00:47: Niyera discusses their experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems

1:13:50: Niyera discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

1:21:29: Niyera shares where to be found and what’s next for them

Links from this episode:

Ableism

Ample and Rooted

Autism

Binocular Vision Dysfunction

Depersonalization

Derealization

Neurodivergence

Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

Reflective Supervision

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

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