In this episode, Dr. Jane Goodall is joined by Emmanuel Mtiti, who she has worked with for nearly three decades. Emmanuel Mtiti, senior program and policy director at JGI Tanzania, is one of the co-creators of ‘Tacare’ - JGI’s community-driven conservation approach - alongside Dr. Goodall and George Strunden. Mtiti shares how this holistic, community-centered approach to conservation supports local ownership of the process of human development and managing local environments. In this illuminating conversation, Jane and Mtiti reminisce on how Tacare started in 1995 with just 12 Tanzanian villages around Gombe, and how today the innovative program includes 104 villages in Western Tanzania. As JGI has grown, so has Tacare with programs now in several countries including DRC, Republic of the Congo, Uganda and more across the chimpanzee range in Africa. Jane and Mtiti reflect on how this approach has provided a roadmap for the future of harmonious coexistence with the natural world. Together they discuss JGI's hope for the expansion of this model around the world. 

At the End of the Rainbow: Stay to the end of the episode to hear a rare archival clip of Dr. Goodall reflecting on the perspective she gained by flying over Gombe National Park, which helped her realize that helping to improve quality of life for people who live around the park was integral in creating lasting change for wildlife and habitats.

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