Hello and a very warm welcome back to English Plus Podcast. I'm your host, Danny, and this is our third episode in the ‘Literature and Us’ series. Over the last two episodes in our theme for this week, we’ve talked about the big picture: why literature is a vital human tool and how all stories are built on universal patterns that we intuitively understand. Today, we’re zooming in. We’re getting practical. We’re building a toolkit.
I want you to picture a scene. You’ve just finished a book that you either absolutely loved or intensely disliked. You meet up with a friend, or you walk into your book club meeting, and someone asks the inevitable question: “So, what did you think?” And in that moment, your mind goes a little blank. You have a universe of thoughts and feelings about the book, but the words that come out are… simple. "Oh, it was… good. Yeah, I liked it." Or, "Nah, it wasn't for me. A bit boring."
The conversation stalls. It feels like a missed opportunity. You wanted to connect, to share the experience, but you just didn't feel like you had the right language to do it. It’s like trying to describe a symphony using only the words “loud” and “quiet.”
If that scenario feels at all familiar, then this episode is for you. Our goal today is to "Speak the Language of Literature." This isn't about learning dry, academic jargon to win an argument or sound smart. This is about equipping you with practical, useful words and phrases to help you unlock the conversations you already want to have. We’re going to move beyond simple likes and dislikes and give you the tools to talk confidently about why a book made you feel the way it did. We’ll cover genre, theme, character, and style in a way that will empower you for your next book club meeting, or even just your next chat about a Netflix show you binged.
So, let's open up the toolkit and learn how to talk about stories.
Part 1: Beyond the Bookstore Shelves - Talking About Genre
Let’s start with the first and most basic way we categorize stories: Genre. A genre is simply a category of artistic composition, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter. That’s the dictionary definition. In simple terms, it's the label that gives us a rough idea of what to expect. When you pick up a book labeled "Mystery," you expect a crime and a puzzle to solve. When you pick up a "Romance," you expect a central love story.
But talking about genre can be so much more interesting than just stating the obvious. Let’s level up our conversation.
Level 1: The Basics
These are the big, familiar categories. You know them, I know them. A story is either Fiction (made up) or Non-Fiction (based on facts). Within fiction, you have the major players:
● Science Fiction: Speculative stories involving science and technology, often set in the future or on other planets. (Think Dune or The Martian).
● Fantasy: Stories that contain magic, mythical creatures, or supernatural elements that don’t exist in our world. (Think The Lord of the Rings or A Game of Thrones).
● Mystery: A story centered around a crime or a puzzle, which the protagonist must solve. (Anything by Agatha Christie).
● Thriller: A story designed to keep you on the edge of your seat with high stakes, suspense, and a sense of constant danger. The question isn't "who did it?" but "can the hero stop them in time?" (Think The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo).
● Horror: A story designed to scare you, to evoke feelings of dread, terror, and revulsion. (Think Stephen King’s It).
● Romance: A story where the central plot revolves around the development of a romantic relationship between two people. (Think Pride and Prejudice).
● Historical Fiction: A fictional story set in a recognizable period of the past. (Think Wolf Hall).
Okay, so far, so good. But a truly great conversation starts when you dig a little deeper.
Level 2: Subgenres and Specificity
This is where you can add nuance and show you’re really engaging with the book. Most genres have dozens of subgenres. For example, Science Fiction isn't just one thing. If a friend asks you about Andy Weir’s The Martian, you could say, "It's a sci-fi novel." That's true. But it’s more precise and interesting to say, "It's a brilliant piece of hard sci-fi." The term "hard sci-fi" tells your friend that the story is deeply rooted in scientific accuracy and problem-solving. It signals that the appeal isn't just aliens and spaceships, but the intellectual thrill of the protagonist using real-world physics and chemistry to survive.
Conversely, you could describe Star Wars or the Dune series as a space opera, a subgenre that focuses on epic adventures, large-scale conflicts, and romantic, sweeping drama in a space setting. Or you could talk about cyberpunk, like William Gibson's Neuromancer, which focuses on a high-tech, low-life future of AI and corporate dystopias.
The same goes for Mystery. Is it a cozy mystery, set in a small, charming village with an amateur detective and no graphic violence? Or is it a hardboiled detective story, featuring a cynical, world-weary Private Investigator navigating a corrupt, gritty city? Using these terms instantly paints a much clearer picture.
Level 3: Blurring the Lines
Some of the most exciting books being written today don't fit neatly into one box. They are genre-bending or cross-genre. Talking about this is a great way to start a discussion.
For example, Audrey Niffenegger’s The Time Traveler’s Wife is a science fiction novel because it deals with time travel. But at its heart, it’s a deeply emotional romance. So you could say, "What I found so compelling is how it uses a sci-fi premise to tell a very human love story. It’s a great example of a cross-genre novel."
Or consider a book like Susanna Clarke's Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. It's fantasy, yes, but it's written in the style of a 19th-century novel by Jane Austen or Charles Dickens, so it's also historical fiction. Pointing this out opens up a whole new line of conversation about style and influence.
Practical Phrases for Talking About Genre:
● Instead of: "It's a fantasy book."
○ Try: "It's a piece of high fantasy, with really intricate world-building." (World-building is a great term for the creation of a detailed fictional world).
○ Or: "It’s more of an urban fantasy; the magical elements are set in a modern-day city, which I found really cool."
● Instead of: "It was a mix of genres."
○ Try: "The author did a great job of blending genres. It had the suspense of a thriller but also some really thought-provoking sci-fi ideas."
○ Or: "I think it really subverts the conventions of a typical romance novel." (To subvert conventions means to play with or overturn the reader's expectations of a genre).
Part 2: The Heart of the Matter - Talking About Plot and Theme
This is one of the most important distinctions you can make in a book discussion: the difference between Plot and Theme. Getting this right will instantly elevate your conversation.
● The Plot is what happens. It's the sequence of events, the "and then this happened, and then this happened." If you're describing the plot of Harry Potter, you'd say, "It's about a young orphan who discovers he's a wizard, goes to a magical school, and fights an evil sorcerer who killed his parents."
● The Theme is what the story is about on a deeper level. It’s the central idea, the message, or the question the book is exploring. The themes of Harry Potter are things like friendship, courage, the battle between good and evil, prejudice, and the idea that our choices, not our abilities, define who we are.
A great discussion often moves from plot to theme. You start with the events and then ask what those events mean.
Useful Vocabulary for Plot:
● Pacing: This refers to the speed at which the story unfolds. Is it a fast-paced, page-turner, or is it a slow burn? There's no right or wrong answer; it's a matter of style.
○ How to use it: "The pacing was relentless; I stayed up all night to finish it." Or, "The pacing was very meditative and slow, which really allowed me to sink into the atmosphere of the novel."
● Plot Twist: A radical, unexpected change in the direction of the story.
○ How to use it: "I have to admit, that plot twist in the final chapter completely caught me off guard. Did you see it coming?"
● Foreshadowing: A literary device where the author gives subtle hints or clues about what is going to happen later in the story. It's often only noticeable on a second reading.
○ How to use it: "The author's use of foreshadowing was so clever. All the clues were there from the beginning, but I didn't piece them together."
● Red Herring: A clue or piece of information that is intended to be misleading or distracting from the real issue. It’s a staple of the mystery genre.
○ How to use it: "I was convinced that character was the killer, but he turned out to be a complete red herring."
Useful Vocabulary for Theme:
Identifying the theme is about looking for the recurring ideas in a story. Common themes include: coming of age, love and loss, power and corruption, identity, family, justice, and redemption.
● How to use it: "For me, the central theme of The Great Gatsby wasn't just love, but the illusion of the past and the corruption of the American Dream."
● Phrases to start a conversation: "What do you think the author was trying to say about the theme of ambition?" Or, "I thought the book was a fascinating exploration of the theme of memory."
Bringing Plot and Theme Together:
The best conversations happen when you connect the two.
● "The fast-paced, thrilling plot was really just a vehicle to explore the deeper themes of morality and technology."
● "While the plot itself was quite simple, the way it explored the theme of grief was incredibly profound and moving."
Part 3: The People on the Page - Talking About Characters
For many of us, characters are the most important part of a book. They're the people we connect with, root for, and sometimes even hate. So how can we talk about them with more precision?
Character Arc: The Journey of Change
The most important concept here is the character arc. This refers to the internal journey of a character over the course of the story.
● A Dynamic Character is one who undergoes significant internal change. They learn something, grow as a person, or change their worldview. Ebenezer Scrooge in A Christmas Carol has one of the most famous character arcs in literature. He goes from a miserly, cruel man to a generous and kind one. Most protagonists are dynamic.
● A Static Character is one who stays essentially the same throughout the story. This isn't necessarily a bad thing! A static character can serve as a rock or a moral compass for the dynamic protagonist. Sherlock Holmes is largely a static character; it is Dr. Watson and the people around him who are changed by his genius.
● How to use it: "I found the protagonist's character arc so satisfying. The way she grew from a timid, insecure person into a confident leader was the best part of the book." Or, "I was a bit disappointed that the main character felt so static. He didn't seem to learn anything from his experiences."
Character Development: Flat vs. Round
This refers to how complex and well-developed a character feels. The terms were coined by the novelist E.M. Forster.
● A Flat Character is two-dimensional. They are often defined by a single quality or idea. They can be useful for minor roles, but if a main character is flat, it's usually a flaw in the writing. Think of a stereotypical "evil stepmother" or "bumbling sidekick" who has no other personality traits.
● A Round Character is complex and multi-faceted, like a real person. They have contradictions, flaws, and a rich inner life. They can surprise you. Hamlet is a round character. Katniss Everdeen is a round character.
● How to use it: "The villain was a bit flat for my taste; just pure evil with no real motivation." Or, "What made the book so brilliant was how round all the characters were, even the minor ones. They all felt like real people with their own stories."
Other Useful Character Terms:
● Protagonist: The main character of the story.
● Antagonist: The character or force that opposes the protagonist. Remember, this doesn't have to be a person! It could be society, nature, or the protagonist's own inner demons.
● Anti-hero: A protagonist who lacks conventional heroic qualities like morality, courage, or idealism. They are often flawed, cynical, and do bad things, but we still root for them. Walter White in Breaking Bad is a classic TV example.
● How to use it: "It was refreshing to read a story with an anti-hero at its center. It really challenged my ideas of right and wrong."
Part 4: The Voice of the Story - Talking About Narrative Style and Prose
This final section might feel the most technical, but it’s actually all about something very simple: how the story is told. The author's choices about voice, perspective, and language have a huge impact on our experience as readers.
Point of View (POV): Who's Telling the Story?
● First Person: The narrator is a character in the story, telling it from their perspective using "I." This creates a very intimate and personal feel, but it's also limited and can be unreliable. We only know what the narrator knows and thinks. (The Catcher in the Rye or The Hunger Games).
○ How to use it: "The first-person narration really pulled me into the main character’s head. Her voice was so strong and distinctive."
● Third Person Limited: The narrator is outside the story but focuses closely on the thoughts and feelings of one single character (the POV character). Uses "he" or "she." This is very common. The Harry Potter series is a perfect example; we almost always see the world through Harry’s eyes.
○ How to use it: "I think the third-person limited perspective was a smart choice. It created so much suspense because we, the readers, were in the dark right along with the hero."
● Third Person Omniscient: The narrator is "all-knowing." They are outside the story and can tell us what any character is thinking or feeling at any time. This was very popular in 19th-century novels like those by George Eliot or Leo Tolstoy. It gives a broad, god-like view of the story.
○ How to use it: "The omniscient narrator allowed the author to explore the whole community, not just one person's story, which was essential for the book's epic scope."
Prose: The Style of the Writing
Prose simply means the actual words and sentences on the page. Talking about the quality of the writing itself is a great way to discuss a book.
● Is the prose sparse or minimalist? Using short, direct, unadorned sentences. Ernest Hemingway was famous for this.
● Is it lyrical or poetic? Using beautiful, rhythmic, and highly descriptive language that reads almost like poetry.
● Is it dense or ornate? Using complex sentence structures, a large vocabulary, and intricate detail.
● Is it conversational? Written in a way that feels like someone is talking directly to you.
● How to use it: "I wasn't completely sold on the plot, but I fell in love with the author's prose. It was so lyrical and beautiful." Or, "The writing style was very sparse, which gave the story a really stark and powerful feeling."
Tone and Atmosphere:
These two are related but different.
● Tone is the narrator's attitude toward the subject matter. Is it sarcastic, witty, serious, nostalgic, cynical, or cheerful?
● Atmosphere (or Mood) is the feeling the story creates in you, the reader. Is it tense, creepy, magical, melancholic, or comforting?
● How to use it: "The narrator's tone was so witty and humorous, which was a great contrast to the dark subject matter." And, "The book had such a chilling and gothic atmosphere; I had to read it with the lights on!"
Conclusion: Your Toolkit for Better Book Talk
So there you have it. We've filled our toolkit with practical language to discuss Genre, Plot, Theme, Characters, and Style. We've learned that you can talk about a novel's genre-bending nature, its slow-burn pacing, its exploration of the theme of identity, its protagonist's compelling character arc, and its sparse, minimalist prose.
The purpose of these words is not to make you sound like a literary critic. It's to give you a bridge between your internal experience of a book and your ability to share that experience with others. They are tools for connection. They allow you to move the conversation from "Did you like it?" to "What did you think about the way the author…?" That second question is where the magic happens. That's where you learn what your friend thinks, what you think, and why.
So I challenge you to try it out. The next time you finish a book, a movie, or even a TV series, pick one or two of these terms. Think about the protagonist. Were they dynamic or static? Think about the ending. Was it a satisfying conclusion to their character arc? Think about the writing. Was the prose lyrical or conversational?
Using this language will not only make your conversations richer, but it will also deepen your own appreciation for the stories you consume. You start to see the craft, the choices the author made, and the incredible architecture that holds a good story together.
You already have a love for stories. Now, you have the language to express it.
That’s all for today’s episode of English Plus Podcast. I hope you feel empowered and ready for your next great book discussion. Join me next time for the final episode in our ‘Literature and Us’ series. We're going to talk about the act of reading itself—how to build a sustainable reading habit in a distracted world and how to choose the right book for you. It's going to be a practical guide to making literature a lasting part of your life.
Until then, this is Danny. Take care, and happy talking.