Scott and Galen are joined by WDRB's Rick Bozich, and we enjoyed a rolling conversation that focused on both men's basketball and football.

On the basketball side, Rick gives us an overview of how the Woodson era has gone through the first 2.5 seasons, the concerns he has with this year's team, and a larger discussion about the style of play that IU has been employing and the shortcomings of roster construction.

We then move on to talking about IU football, with a post-mortem on the Allen era, thoughts on the Cignetti hire and the overall momentum of the program, the involvement of IU administration in the new hire, and the possibility of IU donors and institutions finally taking football fully seriously. It's a fun episode, we hope you enjoy it.