My guests today are two of the brightest minds and best writers in the right-wing populist movement. Ryan James Girdusky is author of "They're Not Listening: How the Elites Created the Nationalist Populist Revolution", and he's a co-host on the American Conservatives podcast Right Now. Pedro Gonzalez is the assistant editor over at American Greatness. They join me to discuss Trump, the election, political realignments, the future of the Trump populist movement, libertarianism, and more. This was a fun chat, and these guys are very dialed into the populist movement on the right.

Read more of Ryan's work here: https://ryangirdusky.com

Read more of Pedro's work here: https://muckrack.com/emeriticus

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