Professors Jessica Vanderlelie, Allie Clemens and Rorden Wilkinson as DVCAs of La Trobe, Monash and Macquarie join the podcast to reflect on the impact of AI on the future of education. As a panel at the Microsoft HE Summit they share with Katie Ford and I a response to a provocation by George Siemens of what an AI-first university means. Changes to teaching and assessment mean the days of being a content business is over. They point to leadership, vision, culture and commitment to implementation are key to using AI to respond to current system challenges as the way forward for universities.