This was a delightful interview for the Begin Again Podcast with David Hayward about the kind of work he does, being people who chose to take the Bible VERY seriously, what a healthy church looks like, having a spirituality not built upon fear, anger, or shame, Bible quotes we are not allowed to talk about in church and so much more.

If you would like to see more from David, check out his website at https://www.nakedpastor.com as well as @nakedpastor on all social networks.

If you would like to see more from John, check out his website at https://www.johnchaffee.com as well as @thatjohnchaffee on all social networks.