Guilty pleasures is the theme, so you’d think we’d have a fun little discussion about Naked and Afraid, The Bachelor or chocolate cake. Well, nope. We wander through patriarchy, equal rights, equal pay, resentment, feminism and almost veer off into the restructuring of maternity leave in America. And we laugh…

Sarah Von Bargen is our guest. Check out her work at yesandyes.org.  

Best to the Nest is our podcast all about creating strong, comfortable, beautiful nests that prepare us to fly. 

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