In this episode of "Inside the Rope," David chats with Amy Pham, Fund Manager at Pengana, about the changing world of property investment as interest rates change and more people work from home. They dive into how these changes are affecting properties in Australia, especially offices, and compare it to what's happening around the world.

Amy highlights the trends in industrial and retail properties, why data centres are becoming hot spots for investors, and why it's important to consider environmental, social, and governance (ESG) factors when making investment choices. Amy shares her own story, from her early days using math as a strength as a Vietnamese refugee to becoming an expert in econometrics, adding a personal touch to her professional insights.

They also talk about the different kinds of assets you can invest in, how changes in interest rates impact property investments, and the difference between investing in listed properties (like shares) and unlisted equivalents.

Amy has over 25 years of property funds management experience. Prior to joining Pengana she worked at Charter Hall/Folkestone for 6 years, managing a high conviction AREIT strategy. This team won several industry awards including Financial Standards Property Fund Manager of the Year 2019, Money Management/Lonsec Australian Property Securities Fund Manager of the Year 2018, and Financial Standards Property Fund Manager of the Year 2017.

Amy has held several senior positions including head of property securities at IAG and portfolio manager at Deutsche Asset Management and Perpetual Funds Management. She began her career as a quantitative analyst at Legal & General in 1994.

Amy holds a Bachelor and Honours degree in Economics from the University of New England and University of California Davis.