Kirsten Johnson Podcast

Ep 197 Kirsten's Leaving + Deprogramming AA Story


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Katie Lain of Thrive Alcohol Recovery interviews me (Kirsten!) about joining, leaving and deprogramming AA. We also talk about trauma, autism, ADHD and what can be going on beyond the misdiagnosis of "alcoholism." We dive into The Sinclair Method, which Katie's program is based upon, and discuss what dissenting has been like.

🔥 Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here

🧠 Brain optimization tools → here

🌶️ Neurodivergent Discovery Portal (with self assessments) → here

❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here

Katie's YouTube

Timestamps:

00:00 Sobriety Bestie on Thrive Alcohol Recovery Podcast Intro

01:46 Katie Lain of Thrive Alcohol Recovery

03:23 Getting Sober Advice

10:50 Trauma, Autism, ADHD + Alcohol

18:33 AA Indoctrination + Alcoholic Identity

21:14 CSA, Autism, ADHD, TBI's + Brain Optimization

30:15 AA is a Religion

31:46 First AA Meeting

38:02 AA Propaganda + the Rockefeller Model

43:24 Why Doesn't AA Update the Big Book?

47:26 AA is a Harmful Self Fulfilling Prophecy

52:28 AA is a Cult + Free Labor Exploitation

1:02:30 Cracks in AA Brainwashing

1:10:26 Realizing AA is Baloney

1:19:27 Breaking Anonymity + Dissenting

1:26:09 Support For Leaving AA

1:31:34 The Sinclair Method

1:42:44 We're Not Broken - The System Is

Come vibe with me:

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Kirsten's TikTok

📚 Books that helped me deprogram and think for myself → here

📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here

💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here

⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care.

đź’– Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.

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