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Katie Lain of Thrive Alcohol Recovery interviews me (Kirsten!) about joining, leaving and deprogramming AA. We also talk about trauma, autism, ADHD and what can be going on beyond the misdiagnosis of "alcoholism." We dive into The Sinclair Method, which Katie's program is based upon, and discuss what dissenting has been like.
🔥 Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here
🧠Brain optimization tools → here
🌶️ Neurodivergent Discovery Portal (with self assessments) → here
❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here
Katie's YouTube
Timestamps:
00:00 Sobriety Bestie on Thrive Alcohol Recovery Podcast Intro
01:46 Katie Lain of Thrive Alcohol Recovery
03:23 Getting Sober Advice
10:50 Trauma, Autism, ADHD + Alcohol
18:33 AA Indoctrination + Alcoholic Identity
21:14 CSA, Autism, ADHD, TBI's + Brain Optimization
30:15 AA is a Religion
31:46 First AA Meeting
38:02 AA Propaganda + the Rockefeller Model
43:24 Why Doesn't AA Update the Big Book?
47:26 AA is a Harmful Self Fulfilling Prophecy
52:28 AA is a Cult + Free Labor Exploitation
1:02:30 Cracks in AA Brainwashing
1:10:26 Realizing AA is Baloney
1:19:27 Breaking Anonymity + Dissenting
1:26:09 Support For Leaving AA
1:31:34 The Sinclair Method
1:42:44 We're Not Broken - The System Is
Come vibe with me:
Kirsten's Facebook
Kirsten's Instagram
Kirsten's TikTok
📚 Books that helped me deprogram and think for myself → here
📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here
💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here
⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care.
đź’– Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.
By Kirsten Johnson4.5
1717 ratings
Katie Lain of Thrive Alcohol Recovery interviews me (Kirsten!) about joining, leaving and deprogramming AA. We also talk about trauma, autism, ADHD and what can be going on beyond the misdiagnosis of "alcoholism." We dive into The Sinclair Method, which Katie's program is based upon, and discuss what dissenting has been like.
🔥 Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here
🧠Brain optimization tools → here
🌶️ Neurodivergent Discovery Portal (with self assessments) → here
❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here
Katie's YouTube
Timestamps:
00:00 Sobriety Bestie on Thrive Alcohol Recovery Podcast Intro
01:46 Katie Lain of Thrive Alcohol Recovery
03:23 Getting Sober Advice
10:50 Trauma, Autism, ADHD + Alcohol
18:33 AA Indoctrination + Alcoholic Identity
21:14 CSA, Autism, ADHD, TBI's + Brain Optimization
30:15 AA is a Religion
31:46 First AA Meeting
38:02 AA Propaganda + the Rockefeller Model
43:24 Why Doesn't AA Update the Big Book?
47:26 AA is a Harmful Self Fulfilling Prophecy
52:28 AA is a Cult + Free Labor Exploitation
1:02:30 Cracks in AA Brainwashing
1:10:26 Realizing AA is Baloney
1:19:27 Breaking Anonymity + Dissenting
1:26:09 Support For Leaving AA
1:31:34 The Sinclair Method
1:42:44 We're Not Broken - The System Is
Come vibe with me:
Kirsten's Facebook
Kirsten's Instagram
Kirsten's TikTok
📚 Books that helped me deprogram and think for myself → here
📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here
💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here
⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care.
đź’– Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.

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