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(03:10) Biblical Framework

(08:55) Training in the academy vs. the church

(12:00) Seminary shortfalls

(17:30) Fighting for balance

(21:36) The benefits of church-based training

(25:05) Uniqueness of teaching pastors

(28:42) 2 Cautions: Motive in avoiding messiness of church ministry, and a lack of youth and seminary positions

(34:05) Flex your gifts in the local church

(36:09) Final word and prayer