In recent episodes of Rumble, Michael Moore has shared his ideas for an alternative to the American way of policing: The Department of Public Safety & Compassion. He's also shared his ideas for an alternative to our brutal and racist system of mass incarceration: The Department of Restorative Justice & Redemption. In this episode, Mike is joined by Desmond Cole, an award-winning journalist and activist who recently published his first book called “The Skin We’re In: A Year of Black Resistance & Power.” They discuss the intellectual underpinnings of the movement to defund the police and abolish the prison system, why white liberals should not fear these ideas, and how our society will be better off when we decide to treat each other differently. Plus, Mike shares an update on Darnella Frazier, the courageous teenager who filmed the execution of George Floyd. On Tuesday night her uncle was killed by Minneapolis police who were in the middle of a reckless car chase. Madness. Tragic.

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