I am thrilled to be kicking Season 5 (!!) off with a return appearance from my friend Camille T. Dungy.

In this episode, Camille and I dive real-talk look at what happens behind the scenes of the life of a successful poet, author, speaker, and teacher and how she maintains success and keeps her creative train on the tracks.

We also talk about self-care, how to find/ask for/get help, the difference between doing and promoting the work, and how to navigate the tension between wanting success yesterday and finding the patience to let your ideas simmer.

I loved this conversation and suspect you will too..

Show Notes:

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