Shows Main Idea – What you see with any person or couple that you’re helping is not the primary thing you must know. You need to understand how to penetrate the noise and chaos of their lives, and the insight to drill to the heart of the matter. In this podcast, Rick graphically provides the insight you need to understand the real story and need of a struggling couple.

Show Notes: https://rickthomas.net/podcast/ep-214-getting-to-the-heart-of-the-matter/

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