Who has the conch? Somebody find the glasses! We're trapped on a podcast island with the amazing Gwen Glazer and Frank Collerius of the New York Public Library's show The Librarian Is In.

Actually, Gwen and Frank were kind enough to have us in their studio to chat about William Golding's novel The Lord of the Flies.

Possible television-related tangents include LOST, Kid Nation, and Kids Say the Darnedest Things!

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