In this episode, I had an incredible conversation with George, a retired FBI agent who served for 24 years and experienced multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. We discussed the importance of paperwork in the FBI, the adrenaline during combat situations, and how he managed to avoid long-term effects from his experiences. George also shared his insights on the different roles and responsibilities of agencies like the FBI, CIA, and Secret Service, emphasizing that there isn't a higher ranking among them but rather a focus on complementing each other to protect the United States and serve the American people. We also explored various aspects of being a retired FBI agent, such as carrying a weapon and the challenges faced while traveling. George recounted an interesting experience flying shortly after 9/11 when he had to transport a prisoner from Phoenix to New York on a commercial flight. The conversation touched on the thankless nature of the job and the internal recognition that agents receive, as well as the sense of impact they feel when making a positive difference in their community. George shared his proudest moments, which include being selected to join the FBI as an immigrant, working on high-profile cases such as the 9/11 investigation, and spending seven months interrogating Saddam Hussein. We also discussed the process of writing a book about the interrogation and the necessary steps to gain approval from the FBI. Additionally, George touched on his experiences as a police officer and how it compares to his time in the FBI. Finally, we delved into the impact of violence on society, discussing the differences between police officers, FBI agents, and the impact of events like 9/11 on counterterrorism efforts. George shared his insights on preventing school shootings, the importance of mental health support, and gun control. The conversation also touched on the contrast between brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein and serial killers, revealing the different motivations and impacts of their actions. Don't miss out on this fascinating episode filled with insights into the world of an FBI agent and the impact of their work on society.

Chapters:

(0:00:07) - The FBI

(0:10:22) - Carrying a Weapon

(0:20:36) - Building a Rapport With Saddam Hussein

(0:34:25) - The Impact of Violence on Society

(0:43:44) - Making Plans to Meet Up Again