November 28, 2025

Ep. 234 - Walking Each Other Home: A Psychedelic Perspective on Healing and Connection, Ram Dass Explorer's Club with Matt Zeemon and Jackie Dobrinska

56 minutes

Drawing on neuroscience, psychology, and lived experience, Matt Zeemon discusses the power of psychedelics for quieting the ego, rekindling love, facing pain, and opening the heart.

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This time on the BHNN Guest Podcast, Matt Zeemon explores:

Psychedelics as catalysts for healing, not cures
Matt’s first psychedelic experience and reconnecting with his mother
Western psychological medicine as a bandaid approach versus working to find the root cause
Breaking repetitive thinking patterns ourselves
Uncovering what relative risk means
The mental health crisis in our country, especially among veterans
How we all have psychedelic usage within our lineage
The social politics of psychedelic substances
Ways to create safe, sacred space for yourself and others on their journeys
What it truly means to walk each other home

About Matt Zeemon:

Matt Zemon, MSc, is a best-selling author and thought leader at the intersection of psychedelics, science, and spiritual experience. With a Master’s in Psychology and Neuroscience of Mental Health, he blends modern research with timeless wisdom to support safe, intentional psychedelic use. Inspired by teachers like Ram Dass, Matt’s work empowers spiritual seekers, veterans, and others on the path of healing and transformation. Learn more about Matt on his website.

About The Host, Jackie Dobrinska:

Jackie Dobrinska is the Director of Education, Community & Inclusion for Ram Dass’ Love, Serve, Remember Foundation and the current host of Ram Dass’ Here & Now podcast. She is also a teacher, coach, and spiritual director with the privilege of marrying two decades of mystical studies with 15 years of expertise in holistic wellness. As an inter-spiritual minister, Jackie was ordained in Creation Spirituality in 2016 and has also studied extensively in several other lineages – the plant-medicine-based Pachakuti Mesa Tradition, Sri Vidya Tantra, Western European Shamanism, Christian Mysticism, the Wise Woman Tradition, and others. Today, in addition to building courses and community for LSRF, she leads workshops and coaches individuals to discover, nourish and live from their most authentic selves.

“With these medicines, we have the real ability to heal ourselves. It’s not that the medicines did it, it’s that we rewrote our own stories. We are the medicine when we use psychedelics and entheogens. They don’t bring back people we’ve lost, they don’t change the past, they bring it close where we can look at it, discover it, understand it, and decide how to make more of our present. That’s why psychedelics are catalysts and not cures.” –Matt Zeemon

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