A visit to a Capuchin crypt in Rome sparks a conversation about relics and the resurrection of the body.

A Vatican commission says the Church should not proceed with a female deaconate. JD and Ed talk about Pope Leo XIV’s decision to publicize the commission’s findings, and how the findings may impact conversations about women in the Church.

Then, Ed plays a round of Rome ‘Yes or No.’

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