In this episode of "Normal World," Matt McClowry fills in for Dave Landau, joining 1/4 Black Garrett and Angela. They open with breaking news: Pope Francis has died — shortly after meeting JD Vance. The crew explores the timing, headlines, and theories swirling around the event. They move through Easter chaos, an Australian carjacking, and a broader discussion about the Vatican, legacy, and power. The WEF’s leadership change leads into critiques of global institutions, while Kanye’s recent behavior and RFK Jr.’s autism stance raise questions about mental health, pharma, and food safety.

AOC and Bernie’s latest messaging is unpacked, along with the decline of once-rising political stars. Podcasting is praised as a rare place for honest conversation. The group also addresses gender hypocrisy around the draft and ongoing political opportunism. As the episode closes, the show returns to a larger idea: When legacy systems fail and nothing adds up, disruption may be the only real path forward.

Today’s guest on "Normal World" is Tammy Pescatelli.

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