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The behavior of the Catholic Church and Pope Pius XII is one of the most hotly debated controversies in the history of the Holocaust.  And for a long time much of the evidence about that has been locked away in the Vatican Archives.  Now, historians are finally able to access these documents.

In this episode, I talk with one of those who has access to those Vatican archives, David Kertzer, about the response of the Catholic Church to the rise of the Nazis and to the Holocaust.  

 
David Kertzer is a Pulitzer-prize-winning author and professor of social science at Brown University/

Kertzer, David, The Pope at War: The Secret History of Pius XII, Mussolini, and Hitler (2022)

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