Dana and Mike Fitzgerald explore Mike's journey from a childhood spent fishing to his later passion for hunting and writing. They discuss the impact of family dynamics, the nutritional aware ness that led Mike to hunting, and the bond he shares with his brother through outdoor adventures. Mike shares his experiences with rejection in his writing career and how he overcame it to find success. Dana and Mike discuss the value of suffering in these pursuits, the challenges posed by wildlife encounters, and the dynamics of hunting culture in urban settings. The conversation also delves into the challenges faced by writers in the outdoor community, including issues of inclusivity and representation. Finally, they reflect on the future of outdoor

writing and the importance of mentorship and inspiration in fostering a new generation of writers.

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