We sit down with Dave Gibson and Travis Kokas from the band Heron & Crane to talk about their lifelong superfandom for Sloan, including reflections on on-stage and off-stage encounters with the band and with other groups in the Murderecords/Sloan-adjacent universe. Plus: why Dave is the real reason why Pretty Voice and Pick It Up And Dial It aren't played live any more, and why Travis might have the most impressive Sloan collection of anyone out there.