This week I'm talking with relational life and leadership coach James-Olivia Chu Hillman and we covered so much ground, including how what we've been taught about relationships may not be serving us, why we need to consider our relationships to ourselves before thinking of other people, how to start telling the truth about what we want, and the distinctions between discomfort, pain, and suffering.

James-Olivia is one of my favorite people and this first-half of our conversation won't disappoint. Enjoy, enjoy!!

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