This week, we are featuring one of the most unique interviews I've ever conducted. My guest, Justine Alter (a pseudonym), is an Orthodox Christian and author of the book *Outside of the World*.

In her book, Justine shares her incredible journey from a difficult childhood through the occult, her experiences as a psychic medium, and even her time as a cult leader, ultimately finding her way to the Orthodox Church.

During the interview, Justine uses a voice augmenter to disguise her identity due to multiple death threats she has received from individuals within occult circles.

You can order her book directly at: https://www.newmartyrpress.com

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