This week, Cal catches up with Hal Herring at the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Rendezvous. Hal is the host of the Podcast & Blast Podcast, and he may be the only man in the country who knows as much as Cal about public lands, conservation, and what we need to do to protect the wild places we love. Give it a listen, and while you're at it, subscribe to BHAs Podcast & Blast.

This episode was recorded by the Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast, hosted by Hal Herring.

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