PUBLIC VERSION. Filmmaker Ryan Spindell (THE MORTUARY COLLECTION, THE BABYSITTER MURDERS short film) joins Adam, Joe, and Arwen to discuss his career journey. Learning early on that the only way to do this was to do it entirely himself, Ryan details the steps he took from a guy with a dream of making films… to making short films that caught the attention of festivals and industry executives… to the endless "water bottle tours" where he was going in circles as executives told him that "he couldn't make a feature film until he wrote one" and then "that he couldn't make his feature script because he hadn't already directed a feature"… to experiencing firsthand how script development can sometimes ruin a film before it even starts shooting… to taking his art into his own hands and independently creating one of the best anthology films in recent years with THE MORTUARY COLLECTION (currently available on VOD, Digital, and DVD/Blu-Ray with tons of special features)… Ryan's journey speaks directly to so very many of today's aspiring filmmakers who are trying to get a foot in the door and actually make a movie instead of just talking about making a movie. Dr. Arwen attempts to help a patient seeking advice for a foreign dilemma and comes up short for the first time ever, the group discusses the ingredients that make a solid anthology film, and Ryan explains why "Hollywood is the only place that can kill you with encouragement."