Ben Hervey-Murray is a surf guide based in Southern California, as well as the captain of the U.S. surf fishing team. Born in England, Hervey-Murray's experience with “finesse style” surf fishing has given him a serious leg up with perch, which require a simple — though different — approach. Anyone can find them and catch a mess of them this time of year. Here's how.

Hosted by OL fishing editor Joe Cermele.

Edited by Mike Pedersen / Eighty Five Audio.

Guest is Ben Hervey-Murray.

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