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In this episode, Brian Niska and Jeff Liskay talks about our upcoming Skeena Spey School and what makes the Skeena River a prime location for steelhead fishing.

Expect to learn the art of spotting fish upstream, techniques to keep your fly in the "bucket" longer, and discover the best rods and lines suitable for both the West Coast and Great Lakes regions. This episode is packed with essential tips for anyone looking to enhance their steelhead fishing experience, including the top four criteria for finding fish on any steelhead water.

Whether you're planning a trip to the majestic Skeena River or simply looking to improve your angling skills, this episode promises to equip you with the knowledge and inspiration you need.

Episode Chapters with Brian Niska and Jeff Liskay on the Skeena Spey School

2:46 - Jeff expresses excitement about visiting the Skeena Spey Lodge, emphasizing the value of learning from experienced steelhead guides and the camaraderie among participants. Brian, the owner of the lodge, describes its unique appeal, highlighting the opportunity to catch pristine steelhead in shallow waters.

5:39 - Jeff shares that the biggest steelhead he has seen in the Skeena is close to 30 pounds. Brian explains that while the fishing season runs from mid-July to the end of October, late August to early September is particularly favorable because as water temperatures drop, fish begin to settle in the runs, increasing catch rates.

12:00 - We discuss the differences and similarities between fishing in the Great Lakes and the Skeena River, particularly for steelhead. Jeff emphasizes the importance of understanding how to fish the fly properly, noting that techniques learned in the Great Lakes can be valuable when applied to the Skeena.

14:29 - Jeff asks Brian about his approach to guiding anglers on the lower Skeena River. Brian explains that he doesn't typically have anglers fish one after the other in a step-and-cast manner. Instead, he assigns each angler their own section of the river, focusing on specific features such as diagonal bars or clusters of rocks, which can indicate where fish might choose to linger.

21:44 - We discuss the fluctuations in steelhead fish populations on the West Coast and the Great Lakes. Brian notes that natural variability in fish numbers has always existed, but modern technology and communication amplify awareness of these changes.

26:50 - Brian describes the Skeena, highlighting that within 15 minutes in any direction, one can experience solitude, yet the area is easily accessible due to its modern airport and proximity to town amenities. The lodge is conveniently located near the airport, equipped with Wi-Fi, and benefits from fresh supplies due to its closeness to town.

27:57 - Brian outlines the itinerary for those who are planning to fish the Skeena. He also emphasizes the importance of using a 12 to 13-foot rod with a Skagit or Scandi head, rather than larger rods, to fish effectively. He advises guests to maintain a mindset of optimism and confidence, believing that any suspicious movement in the water could be a fish.

30:59 - I share a memorable experience where I caught a bright coho, initially mistaking it for a steelhead. Brian explains that the catch varies year to year, with some years having more steelhead than coho, and vice versa. He notes that coho are aggressive fish that often hit harder than steelhead, describing them as tough fighters resembling Chinook salmon in build.

33:09 - Jeff provides valuable tips for fishing the Skeena River, emphasizing the importance of using one's eyes as the best tool. His first tip is to let the fly dangle in a foot of water for potential success. His second tip involves working through a run and paying attention to the movement of the fly.

34:57 - We talk about strategies for effectively fishing in challenging water conditions, particularly when dealing with obstructions like rocks. Jeff explains his approach by imagining himself as the fly to better understand fish behavior. He notes that fish often lay in front of or beside rocks, contrary to the common belief that they stay behind them. Jeff describes his technique of slowly moving his weight down to allow the fly materials to undulate and then positioning the rod toward the middle of the river to slow down the swing and keep the fly in place longer.

36:29 - Brian, although experienced, admits he hasn't fished every tributary but shares his insights on different sections of the river, emphasizing the importance of adapting fishing techniques based on the environment. He highlights the contrast between moving fish and those that linger in specific areas, particularly in the Bulkley and Morice rivers.

42:00 - We discuss the nuances of steelhead fishing, emphasizing the use of spoons and fly presentations. Brian advises focusing on changing presentation methods rather than the fly itself, and underscores the importance of patience when a fish strikes, recommending anglers allow the fish to take the fly without interference.

45:02 - We get into the click and pawl vs disc drag reel. Jeff advises against doing nothing, referencing the classic advice from George Cook, and mentions that while click and pawl reels are good for beginners, they can lead to challenges as the fight progresses. He also shares experiences of anglers struggling with these reels during intense fish fights.

Brian adds that while some guides prefer click and pawl reels for personal use, they often provide clients with disc drag reels for better control. He personally favors disc drag reels, particularly the Islander TR3, for their strong drag and capacity, especially when dealing with exceptional fish.

48:45 - Jeff provides some insights into the importance of proper reel backing, especially when fishing for steelhead. He emphasizes checking for loops in the backing to prevent accidents and ensuring it's wound tightly. He also prefers using 40-50 pound gel spun backing, as it holds up well during long fights with fish, especially in challenging conditions like across boulders.

50:16 - Jeff provides valuable tips on the fishing gear used in the Great Lakes and how it transitions when fishing in the Skeena region. As a general strategy, Jeff advises having both a light and a heavy rod setup in both regions. This allows for flexibility, accommodating shallow and deep water conditions.

53:38 - Brian elaborates on the rods and lines he uses. He also describes various setups he might have in a boat. He highlights the flexibility of using a boat on the Skeena River, allowing for multiple gear setups, compared to the limitations when hiking along the bank.

1:00:10 - I raise the common challenge of locating fish in unfamiliar waters. Jeff suggests observing the river from an upstream perspective, as it reveals subtle features like flat spots and resting areas that are less obvious when looking downstream. This approach helps anglers identify potential fishing spots, whether on a small river or a larger one like the Skeena.

Brian expands on Jeff's idea by emphasizing the importance of location and understanding the river's dynamics. He outlines four key criteria for finding fish:

1. Structure: Look for features like salmon reds, woodydebris, or large rocks.
2. Speed and Depth: Ideal fishing spots often have water around two and a half to three feet deep.
3. Location on the River: Areas near rapids, tributaries, or bends can be promising.
4. Lane of Travel: Anglers should focus on areas where fish are naturally traveling.

1:05:08 - Brian discusses how he manages expectations for guests at his lodge, stressing the challenges of steelhead fishing. He also emphasizes that fishing is more than just catching fish; it's about the knowledge and confidence gained.

1:08:49 - Jeff shares his enthusiasm for the Great Lakes Dude podcast, highlighting the wealth of information and knowledge he gains from engaging with experts like biologists and fishing guides.

1:12:19 - Brian talks about their collaboration with The Conservation Angler (TCA), led by John McMillan. John is both a scientist and a passionate steelhead angler, which uniquely positions him to contribute to conservation efforts.

1:15:06 - We give a shoutout to The Deep Wade podcast, hosted by John McMillan and Nick Chambers. Brian mentions on of his favorite episodes of the said podcast where they interviewed Bill Herzog, aka the Metal God, and one of the best steelhead anglers.

1:15:38 - For those who want to get a chance to win a spot in our Skeena Spey School fly fishing trip and gear giveaway, head on to wetflyswing.com/giveaway.

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Presented By:  Four Wheel Campers

 Are you looking for the best pop-up camper for your adventures?

Stan Kennedy from Four Wheel Campers takes us through the history of the largest pop-up camper company in the country. Discover how their narrow, low-profile design, aluminum frame, and unmatched durability make these campers stand out.

Stan also shares how the Project M camper offers full use of your truck bed while weighing just over 400 pounds. Wondering how these campers handle real-life scenarios—like forgetting to lower the top while driving? We'll hear about that today. 

Find out why Four Wheel Campers might be the best pop-up camper for your next outdoor adventure!

Show Notes with Stan Kennedy on The Best Pop-Up Camper for Fly Anglers. 

About our Guest 

02:25 - Stan Kennedy was born and raised in Northern California. His journey with Four Wheel Campers started in 2002 when he stumbled across the company. He did some research, checked out their website, and was drawn to their unique product.

Over the years, he’s watched the market evolve. Originally, Four Wheel Campers focused on outdoor enthusiasts like hunters and anglers. In the past five to eight years, especially with the pandemic, a new generation has embraced these campers for outdoor adventures.

Four Wheel Campers

04:39 - Four Wheel Campers is the largest manufacturer of pop-up truck campers in the U.S. Their customers are mainly older generations, but lately, younger and middle-aged people are getting interested.

These campers are designed to fit any pickup truck. Unlike bulky campers that add extra height and weight, these campers collapse to a lower profile, making them easier to drive with and park. When you're ready to camp, just pop it up, and you get extra space and protection from the elements.

Top Features of Four Wheel Campers

 10:16 - Four Wheel Campers are built for adventure and convenience. They’re easy to drive with and fit perfectly on any pickup truck. Here are a few things that make them stand out:

Narrow Design: easy to see out of your side mirrors while driving.

Low Profile: reduces wind drag for better fuel efficiency and smoother rides.

Aluminum Frame: built to last with a welded frame, preventing issues like dry rot.

Lightweight: easy to handle and perfect for off-road adventures.

Durability: made to withstand harsh conditions and years of use.

Scott says their approach at Four Wheel Campers has always been about practicality, not fancy details. They focus on building campers that are built to last, without all the extra frills.

Watch this video on YouTube to see how Four Wheel Campers are made: 

https://youtu.be/QSUsxwHrVyk?si=FrlzXUQ_ekAJezmI

What Happens If You Forget to Lock the Latches on Your Pop-Up Camper?

12:25 - Scott explains that it's usually not a big deal if you forget to lock the latches. The original design of the pop-up camper is incredibly sturdy. Here’s what might happen:

If you forget all the latches, the roof might pop up at high speed, but the camper is built to handle that. You’ll get some attention from other drivers, but it’s easy to fix by pulling over, latching it, and continuing your trip.

If you only forget a couple of latches, the roof could bend slightly where it’s still connected, but it’s rare to see any major damage.

A simple way to make sure you don’t forget to lock your pop-up camper’s latches is to create a checklist. Put a checklist on your dashboard to remind you to check everything before you hit the road.

Make it a habit to lock the latches right after you pop down the camper. It’s a quick and simple step to avoid camper mishaps while traveling.

The History of Four Wheel Campers

Stan shared the story behind Four Wheel Campers. It all began in the 1970s when Dave Rowe built a camper in his garage for his hunting and fishing trips in Colorado. Friends saw it and asked if he could build one for them, and soon enough, he was making campers for everyone.

Over the years, the company grew, but the basic design has stayed true to its original look. 

Photo via: https://fourwheelcampers.com/

The ORVIS Special Edition Pop-Up Camper?

The ORVIS Special Edition pop-up camper is based on the usual slide-in style but designed specifically for fishermen. Stan explains that ORVIS worked closely with their engineers to create a camper that would be perfect for a guide or fly fisherman. Here's what sets it apart:

Wet room 

Fly rod holders 

Custom interiors 

Battery solutions 

Check out this Orvis Special Edition Four Wheel Camper Walkthrough: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxL-OcyBik8&t=9s

How Much Does a Pop-Up Camper Cost?

Pop-up campers start around $12,500 and can go up to $60,000 or $70,000 for the more expensive models.  Stan says that despite the price increase, mainly due to inflation and the pandemic, Four Wheel Campers still offers one of the most affordable price ranges in the truck camper market.

What’s Inside a Four Wheel Camper?

23:57 - Four Wheel Campers offer all the essentials you’d expect in any camper, like a sink, stove, fridge, furnace, batteries, propane, and water beds. The real difference is in the layout and style, with each camper feeling unique depending on the model. 

Whether you choose a Project M or another model, you can customize the colors and floor plan to match your needs. 

Best Mattress for Your Pop-up Camper

26:51 - Four Wheel Campers offer customizable mattress options. The stock mattress is high-density foam, but you can add a memory foam topper if you prefer something softer. You can also customize your mattress to suit your needs and the interior of your camper.

Power Setup for a Pop-up Camper

27:50 - Setting up solar power in a pop-up camper is pretty simple. The solar panels are typically placed on the roof, and you can just "set it and forget it." 

The smallest solar system is around 250 watts, but on smaller trucks, it can be as low as 160 watts. For larger campers, you can get up to 500 watts. As for battery power, you can choose from one, two, or even three lithium batteries, depending on the model.

For heating, Stan shared that Four Wheel Campers typically use propane. Most regular slide-in campers and flatbed models have a built-in water heater and a forced-air furnace. 

However, for the topper models, there's no factory-built furnace option at the moment. Customers usually need to use a portable heater, like a diesel heater. 

Four Wheel Camper Rallies

Four Wheel Campers hosts rallies where customers can meet, camp together, and have fun. These events often occur at cool spots like Lake Tahoe, Anza-Borrego, or Oregon. 

The rallies usually feature camping, food, drinks, seminars, and music. It’s a great way for customers to show off their campers, share modifications, and enjoy the outdoors together

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We highlight the top 10 fly fishing mistakes to avoid from the top podcast episodes from 2024.  

We have some of the best fly anglers in the country providing a few of the biggest mistakes to avoid in 2025 and beyond.

 

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Presented By:  On DeMark Lodge, Pescador on the Fly, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Four Wheel Campers

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What are the five top species that come to your mind right now for fly fishing? Are brown trout, steelhead, smallmouth bass, muskie or largemouth on that list right now? And have you ever wondered about fishing some of the great waters of Canada? Today's guest is a guide in Southern Ontario and is the new Fly Fisher host, and today he's gonna give us a roadmap to success on some of the great rivers of the Great Lakes.

Rob Heal, Southern Ontario Guide and The New Fly Fisher host is going to share his experience fishing the Grand River, the Saugeen, a bunch of great rivers that include not only steelhead but great trout fishing. You're gonna hear about these unique rivers and this holdover steelhead species that doesn't out-migrate until a year later. So you got a chance to catch these larger fish. We're gonna find out about these big brown trout in the area as well, and how to target them and some of his other go-to rivers that he fishes.

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Presented By: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Heated Core

 

In this episode, we dive into the art of dry fly fishing with Mark Reisler, owner of Headhunters Fly Shop and a passionate angler with over 25 years of experience. You'll learn expert tips to improve your casting technique, discover Mark's go-to dry flies, and explore strategies to hook more fish on the surface this season.

Episode Chapters with Mark Raisler on Dry Fly Fishing Tips

1:11 - Mark discusses the December and Christmas season which highlights the popularity of trout spey fishing on the river. He further explained how the river is described as ideally suited for spey rods, with skagit lines, sink tips, and streamers (such as leeches and flashy patterns) being effective during the winter months.

4:21 - Mark recalls the changes that led him to steelhead fishing and how his father introduced him to it.

9:05 - The guest went into detail about how he came up with the fly shop idea back in the fall of 2008. Mark shared how he started as a shuttle driver, transitioned to running the kitchen, and eventually decided to become a fly fishing guide. He proudly shares how he and his partner just celebrated  their 17th year into fly fishing business.

22:40 - Mark talked about how to become a great professional angler. He proudly shared that he has been practicing five times a week with a yarn rod to stay sharp in rowing and fundamentals, consistently following the same routine for 30 years.

33:35 - Mark then shared the variety of insects found in each season. He explained the importance of presenting the hatches and perfecting casting techniques.

34:38 - He further explained how the "Hail Mary" cast has a low success rate. Additionally, he went into detail about how an angler should approach rising fish and elaborated on the best techniques for using a fly and achieving a proper drift.

44:45 - Mark proudly shared how the river easily adapts to each season. He explained that the nature of the river makes it very easy for wading. He also shared that the best technique is to sneak up on fish slowly "like how to catch a deer".

50:39 - He then shared his insights on drifting and how to properly cast to the front side of the bell curve and the centerline. He offered advice on how he assesses the water and determines what needs to be done first before diving further into his technique.

Conclusion with Mark Raisler on Dry Fly Fishing Tip

In this session, Mark shared his journey and expertise in steelhead fishing, offering a wealth of knowledge for anglers of all levels. He emphasized the importance of consistent practice, maintaining a routine for 30 years to master rowing and fundamentals to dry fly fishing.

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Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/697   Presented By:  Skwala, Heated Core, Angler's Coffee, TroutRoutes    Fly fishing spring creeks can be super challenging—the fish are spooky, the water conditions aren't always perfect, and sometimes it's hard to present a fly just right. But today, PJ Smith—Driftless guide and Spring Creek expert—is here to share his secrets.   He’s here to share how to find fish in winter, nighttime, and all year. You’ll learn how to sneak up on spooky trout, the best way to position yourself, and whether to cast upstream or downstream. Plus, you will find out when fishing is not fishing and when not fishing is fishing.   Show Notes with PJ Smith on Fly Fishing Spring Creeks and the Driftless.   04:23 - Trout Season in the Driftless wraps up in October to give the fish a break for spawning, and it's a chance for anglers to go deer hunting. January marks the start of a new season, where fishing gets tricky with cold, clear water.    PJ says sunny days are your best bet, and being sneaky is key.   https://vimeo.com/311013412   Fishing Spring Creeks and the Driftless in Winter   Fishing the Driftless in the winter is much different than September. The water is colder and gin clear, which can make fish more sluggish. But if you’re patient and sneaky, winter fishing can be great. Here’s what to expect:  

• Look for warm, sunny days to get the best fishing.
• Be stealthy.
• Small black stoneflies will start hatching; you might even spot them in the snow!
• You can still catch fish on dry flies.
• Nymphing with small patterns works well.

  How to Sneak Up on Spooky Trout    13:12 -  PJ shares some tricks for sneaking up on fish in the winter. He likes to keep a low profile by avoiding high banks and staying in the water. Here are some tips:  

• Wear neutral-colored clothing to blend in.
• Stay quiet and avoid loud movements.
• If you scare the fish, give them a few minutes to settle before trying again.
•  What’s the Best Setup for Driftless Streams? 

14:16 - PJ shares his simple setup for fishing Driftless streams. He typically uses a dry-dropper rig with a dry fly like a Hippie Stomper or Stimulator and a nymph below.    He keeps his leader system simple with a 7.5-foot leader, using 3X or 4X for easy casting. He ties the dry fly directly to the leader and attaches the dropper to the hook.     What Fish Are in the Driftless and How Big Do They Get?   The native brook trout is pretty small in the Driftless, with a 15-inch one considered a big catch. Most brook trout are around 9 to 10 inches. Brown trout, however, are much larger and can grow over 20 inches. Anglers used to catch 30-inch browns, but they’re harder to find these days.    Nighttime Fishing    20:29 - Night fishing can be pretty fun, but it has challenges. The water may be too deep, and some drop-offs can be dangerous, so it's important to know the area well. You'll need a good headlamp with a red or green light, a spare one, and a small flashlight for safety.    Always let someone know where you're fishing, especially when heading out at night.   How Do You Fish Streamers at Night?   26:06 -  PJ says he casts his fly across the pool and lets it swing downstream. The goal is to mimic something like a mouse or frog trying to escape. Sometimes, depending on how the fish react, he’ll add a little twitch to the fly to make it more tempting.   If bats are out, it’s time to rip the fly through the water. Brown trout will even eat bats if they fall in. The key is adjusting your technique based on how the fish bite that night.   How Do You Make the Perfect Cast in Tight Spots?   Practice is the key when making the perfect cast in tight spots. You don’t need long casts—just a solid 20-footer with pinpoint accuracy.    Focus on hitting small targets like seams, holding water, or spots near rocks and vegetation. Roll casting is your best friend in the Driftless, even more than a back cast. Learn sidearm and roll cast to handle tricky spots under trees and around obstructions.   What Flies Should You Tie for the Driftless?   PJ shares his go-to flies for fishing in the Driftless area. These patterns work year-round, especially in winter:  

1. Pink Squirrel 
2. Rubber Leg Stimulator
3. Hippie Stompers 
4. Elk Hair Caddis 
5. Blue-Winged Olives 
6. Tricos
7. Griffith's Gnat
8. Bead Head Nymphs & Leech Patterns
9. Jiggy Nymph Streamer

  PJ’s top advice for winter fishing is to be patient and have fun. Not every day is about catching fish. Even guides get skunked sometimes! Use those moments to learn.   As PJ puts it, “When is fishing not fishing, and when is not fishing, fishing?” Something to think about next time you’re out there!     Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/697

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Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, Heated Core, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company

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Alyx Parks, host at the New Fly Fisher, joins us as we talk all about fly fishing Saskatchewan, Canada. We delve into the region's finest lodges, renowned for offering exceptional fishing opportunities for pike, grayling, and other intriguing species. Alyx brings her wealth of experience from traveling with the New Fly Fisher, revealing invaluable tips for catching grayling, including the art of skittering and the importance of minding your backcast.

Whether you’re a seasoned angler or a curious beginner, this conversation with Alyx Parks is sure to inspire your next trip to the breathtaking landscapes of Saskatchewan. Don’t miss out—tune in and let Alyx guide you through a fly fishing paradise.

Episode Chapters with Alyx Parks on Fly Fishing Saskatchewan.

8:38 - Alyx shares the story of how she became a host on The New Fly Fisher. The journey began unexpectedly when her father, Jeff Parks, also a host on the show, invited her to join a filming trip to Scott Lake Lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. That's when she delivered a memorable segment where she coined the phrase "hot little bug," which resonated with viewers.

15:54 - We get into her fishing trip in Saskatchewan, Canada. She recounts experiences at the Cree River Lodge and Scott Lake Lodge, highlighting their incredible guides and the excellent pike fishing opportunities.

23:02 - Alyx shares her first experience fishing for Arctic grayling at Cree, accompanied by Jenna McKeown, Colin McKeown's daughter and a seasoned fisher. Alyx was amazed by the grayling's power and agility, and she described it as a uniquely thrilling experience.

32:28 - Alyx tells us about Scott Lake Lodge. She describes it as a "bucket list" destination, noting that many visitors save for years to experience it. The lodge offers a range of fishing opportunities, with pike and lake trout being the main species, but also includes grayling and walleye. She also shares personal fishing experiences, including catching large pike with her father.

39:28 - She shares her experience filming a segment about pike fishing, emphasizing the importance of keeping the fly in the water and maintaining movement to attract pike. She recounted a memorable moment where a 47-inch pike nearly hit her co-host Jenna, capturing the excitement and unpredictability of fishing.

52:57 - Alyx shares her memorable experience fishing on the Bow River with Nick Schlachter of Wapiti Sports & Outfitters. She also recounts an encounter with grizzly bears in the area, including a notable bear known as "the boss," emphasizing the wildlife presence in the region.

56:32 - She mentions an episode where her father traveled to Northern Manitoba to explore the famed Gods River for big brook trout.

58:07 - Alyx gives valuable tips for going on a fishing trip to Northern Canada. She recommends bringing stuff such as fleece, puffer jacket, wading jacket, and wet bag.

1:01:09 - We get into podcasts. Alyx prefers podcasts over music, finding them less distracting and more engaging. She likes true crime podcasts and recommends one with the title "Tooth & Claw: True Stories of Animal Attacks," which is hosted by a bear biologist and his friends.

1:03:24 - We get into hockey and golf. Alyx shares her renewed interest in golf, noting the similarities between golf and fly fishing. Her father, a former exceptional golfer turned fly fishing guide, often uses golf analogies when teaching clients. He helps clients improve their casting skills by comparing them to lowering a golf handicap, making the learning process relatable and enjoyable.

1:08:22 - Alyx discusses a significant injury that kept her from fishing for two years and shares insights for people dealing with similar struggles. She emphasizes the importance of visualization in fishing, suggesting that imagining each step of the process—from positioning oneself to presenting the fly—can improve one's fishing skills.

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Presented By:  Yellowstone Teton Territory

Today on Traveled, Steve Hyde of the Hyde Drift Boats family and Eagle Ridge Ranch manager shares his best tips for fly fishing Sheridan Lake and exploring nearby Spring Creek. Find out how to make the most of summer and winter activities in these areas. 

Plus, hear about how Steve and his dad founded Hyde Drift Boats in their garage and the innovations that set their boats apart. 

Show Notes with Steve Hyde on Fly Fishing Sheridan Lake

02:23 - We start off talking about how things are going at Eagle Ridge Ranch during this "in-between" season. Steve says they do a lot of ice fishing and managing cabins for rent year-round. We also talk about big game hunting opportunities at Eagle Ridge Ranch. 

5:17 - Sheridan Lake is located in a remote area between Kilgore and Island Park, surrounded by private and public lands. The lake benefits from powerful springs, which help maintain the temperature and support aquatic life. Steve says grizzly encounters are common in the area, which adds a bit of excitement. 

07:47 - The owner of Eagle Ridge Ranch is Frank VanderSloot, the founder of Melaleuca. There are 12 cabins on the ranch that can sleep anywhere from 2 to 20 people.  

Fishing at the Eagle Ridge Ranch 

9:42 - There are seven miles of Spring Creek and the lake to fish. You can find rainbow trout,  Snake River cutthroat trout, and brook trout in the lake. Native chubfish are also in the system, though they're not highly regarded. 

10:40 - Steve says they only allow up to 12 people daily to ensure a positive visitor experience. Groups of up to 20 can sometimes be accommodated, but they try not to mix groups to keep the area peaceful.

Watch this YouTube video about Eagle Ridge Ranch : https://youtu.be/Z05KwQqWb5U?si=L6LKG2AZ3X9Pjbos

Hyde Drift Boats 

14:15 - We dive into how Steve and his dad started making driftboats in their garage back in the early '80s. What began as a hobby turned into Hyde Drift Boats. Steve talks about how the boat design evolved over the years. 

19:36 - Steve is the director of Wildlife Management for all of Frank's properties in Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Utah. He also works closely with local fish and game agencies to maintain the land and support wildlife in the area. 

Other Activities at Eagle Ridge Ranch 

24:36 - The Eagle Ridge Ranch is great for year-round outdoor activities. People can enjoy fishing, hunting, ATV riding in summer, and snowmobiling in winter. There’s also a lava bed system called Craters of the Moon just south of the ranch.

Fly Fishing at Sheridan Lake: What You Need to Know

28:45 - Sheridan Lake is a fly-fishing-only, catch-and-release spot. The peak season runs from May to October, but you can still find spots throughout the year. Steve says the lake has all kinds of hatches throughout the year. 

3:15 - Steve talks about the lakes and rivers around Eagle Ridge Ranch. The main lakes are Island Park Reservoir and Henry's Lake, but there are also many rivers in the area. 

Eagle Ridge Ranch offers a premium fishing experience at Sheridan Lake. Watch this video to learn more: 

https://youtu.be/wAsF86xnK2E?si=YkzFY7k5G3ahWwJp

45:43 - Here are some things to consider before your trip: 

Pack for all weather conditions: A sudden rainstorm can drop temperatures quickly, so you better be prepared.  

Safety first: Let someone know where you're going or have someone with you. 

Gear up right: Bring a 5 to 7-weight rod. Use the biggest tippet you can (4X), but switch to 5X if the fish get picky.

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Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company

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In today's episode of In the Bucket Podcast, we're joined by spey casting legends Simon Gawesworth and Dean River guide Adrienne Comeau. They’ll share stories, tips, and techniques for hooking these chrome torpedoes and mastering your cast along the way. It’s fish, flies, and a whole lot of fun – stick around! It's time to get in the bucket...

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Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/togiak 

Chris Childs shares his insights on fishing for king salmon at the Togiak River. Discover the thrill of targeting Chinook, steelhead, and Atlantic salmon. Chris offers tips on swinging flies and adapting techniques to changing tides.

Learn about Alaska's top king salmon rivers and gain valuable advice for your fishing adventures. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a beginner, this episode is packed with inspiration and insider knowledge from the Alaskan wilderness. Tune in now!

Episode Chapters with Chris Childs on Fishing for King Salmon in Alaska

2:13 - Chris shares that he began using a two-handed rod about 15 years ago and has been guiding in Alaska for seven years. He initially got involved through a job opportunity in Southwest Alaska, attracted by the variety of fish species that could be targeted with a two-handed rod. Currently, Chris guides in Alaska from mid-June to the end of July and spends the rest of the year working on the Deschutes and John Day River back home.

5:38 - Unlike the crowded Deschutes River, the John Day has limited access, although more spots are becoming available for bank anglers. Chris describes the logistics involved in fishing the river, including four or five-day overnight trips, which limit pressure due to the commitment required. For more information on fishing the John Day, Chris suggests contacting the Deschutes Angler or local ODFW biologist for advice on timing and access points.

9:25 - We dive into fishing for Chinook salmon on the Togiak River, focusing on a program that uses two-handed spey rods. Chris provides details on the timing, structure, and operations of the fishing program.

11:52 - We discuss fishing strategies for the Togiak and Kanektok rivers, highlighting the importance of timing with tides to catch fish, particularly king salmon, in southwest Alaska. Chris explains that fishing success is closely tied to the tides, as they determine when fish move through the bay. Anglers aim to be in the right spot as fish enter, often targeting areas where fish can rest before continuing upstream. These spots, resembling steelhead fishing locations, include soft inside waters and back channels where slower water meets the main river.

14:18 - Chris talks about the logistics and fishing schedule for a fishing trip in Togiak. Travelers typically arrive in Anchorage the night before their trip begins to prepare and adjust for any jet lag, especially international clients. The first full day of fishing starts early, spanning four days.

On changeover days, departing anglers leave as new ones arrive, with a seamless transition facilitated by powerboats and planes. Chris explains how tides influence fishing strategies, dictating where fishing starts based on water flow, with adjustments made throughout the day as tides change.

18:10 - We ask Chris about the gear setup. He explains that they provide a gear rundown for clients ahead of time, allowing them to prepare or purchase necessary equipment. The clientele includes both seasoned travelers familiar with various types of fishing and newcomers to two-handed rod techniques.

For Chinook fishing, Chris recommends a 14' 9wt rod for better castability, especially in larger pools. The standard setup includes a floating Skagit head with a 10 or 12-foot sink tip, and anglers are encouraged to bring two setups if possible. Chris also mentions using Airflo lines, particularly the F.I.S.T (Floating. Intermediate. Sink Three) and Skagit Scout.

21:08 - We discuss the differences between fishing for steelhead and chinook using a two-handed rod. Chris notes that while there are similarities in technique, the primary differences lie in the type of water and casting angles. For chinook, he recommends casting at a broader angle to present the fly broadside and maintain tension, which is crucial for kings as they tend to strike early in the swing.

24:08 - Chris explains that when king salmon grab the fly, the angler should feel a strong, unmistakable pull due to the tight line presentation. He emphasizes the importance of letting the fish dictate the next move after the grab, which typically involves holding on tight and allowing the fish to lead the initial part of the fight. Unlike steelhead, which may give a subtle bite, king salmon are more aggressive and will often grab the fly multiple times.

28:01 - Chris talks about the differences in fishing habitats between the Togiak and Kanektok rivers. He says that while the Togiak does have large sweeping gravel bars similar to the Kanektok, it also features cut banks and deeper troughs where anglers fish differently. Unlike the gradual drop-offs of the Kanektok, the Togiak offers varied water types, including pools ideal for casting from cut banks, reminiscent of Atlantic salmon fishing.

31:33 - Chris highlights that there are only a handful of notable rivers in Alaska for Chinook fishing. Other significant rivers in the area include the Naknek River, with a healthy salmon return, and the remote Sandy and Hoodoo rivers on the peninsulas, known for their exceptional fishing and beautiful landscapes. Chris also notes the Goodnews River as another excellent spot, although he hasn't personally fished there.

33:11 - Chris emphasizes the importance of not fishing too deep, as this could result in missing opportunities if fish are not visible. He explains that warmer water temperatures allow for lighter setups since fish tend to be suspended in the middle water column rather than at the bottom.

35:37 - We ask for his fly recommendations for Chinook fishing. Chris explains that the key to successfully catching Chinook is getting the fly in front of the fish at the right speed and depth. He typically uses flies around four inches long with bright colors like chartreuse, blue, white, and pink, which are effective. These flies often feature materials like marabou and angel hair for flash, and are equipped with medium or large dumbbell eyes. While larger flies and heavy sink tips were initially popular, Chris notes that smaller, moderately weighted flies can also be effective and more enjoyable to cast throughout the day.

37:10 - Chris provides advice for new anglers preparing to cast with large rods in extensive river systems like the Togiak. He emphasizes the importance of staying relaxed, as both physical and mental demands are high. Chris suggests thinking of fishing as targeting a "river within a river," focusing only on the water where casting and fly presentation are feasible.

40:06 - Chris emphasizes the significant difference in power and challenge between fish as they increase in size, particularly beyond the 20-pound mark. He highlights the importance of strategic boat positioning to be able to chase fish that make powerful runs out of the pool.

42:38 - Chris explains that king salmon are powerful fish and during their initial run after being hooked, there's little that can be done to stop them. He advises maintaining tension on the line with a relatively tight drag, but not too tight as to cause issues like a bird's nest if the fish changes direction suddenly. Chris prefers starting with a looser drag and adjusting as needed, emphasizing the importance of allowing the fish to run while keeping control.

45:23 - We talk about the drag settings for fishing steelhead compared to king salmon. Chris mentions that while some people use click and pawl reels for king salmon, he advises against it due to the risk of the reels failing. He recommends using disc drag reels.

47:04 - Chris advises against the assumption that heavy setups are necessary for these king salmon. Instead, he suggests using principles similar to those for trout and steelhead fishing. The region offers forgiving wading conditions with small substrates, making it comfortable for anglers. Essential gear includes reliable rain apparel due to the proximity to the Bering Sea, where weather systems frequently change.

48:57 - Chris talks about the Epic Waters program, which is primarily focused on Chinook fishing, led by Steve Morrow. Steve operates in Togiak, Alaska, and is passionate about fishing for Kings.  While Steve mainly pursues steelhead in British Columbia, his enthusiasm for Chinook leads him to explore opportunities across the Western hemisphere.

50:18 - We ask about his bucket list of fishing destinations. He aims to explore rivers in Norway, Sweden, and Iceland. He also expresses interest in fishing in South America to experience their chinook and steelhead.

53:36 - We ask Chris for advice on improving spey casting skills, especially for fishing Atlantic Salmon, Steelhead, or Chinook. Chris recommends visiting a local fly shop for a casting lesson. He emphasizes the value of having experienced individuals assess and guide one's casting technique.

54:42 - Chris shares his diverse music taste, mentioning his Spotify playlist which includes punk rock bands like Dead Kennedys and Misfits, as well as jazz artist John Coltrane and country singer Colter Wall. He also mentions listening to podcasts, including ours, and enjoys content from The MeatEater podcast due to his interest in hunting.

56:02 - Chris discusses his hunting experiences and practices. He hunts various game throughout the year in central Oregon, including upland birds like pheasants, turkeys, and big game depending on the opportunities available through Oregon's lottery system.

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