On ep 47, Rich sits down with Erwin McManus—husband, father, author, Pastor of Mosaic Church, visionary, communicator, and so much more. They dive into the art of communication—not just as a skill, but as a soul connection, leadership, and worship. Erwin breaks down the seven frequencies of communication from his latest book, Seven, and why understanding ourselves and others shapes the quality of our relationships—and ultimately, our lives.

He shares what decades of leading and working with people have taught him, breaking down the connection between thinking and communication and explaining why great communicators must first become great thinkers.

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