Professor Judy Raper CEO of TEDI London joins the podcast to describe how an alliance of research power houses Arizona State University, UNSW and Kings College are reconceiving design and engineering education in a start up in London. A staff cohort with no lecturers delivering problem based learning in industry partnerships, using the most advanced pedagogy and learning technologies, with no distractions of research, is this experiment a pointer toward the decoupling of the teaching-research nexus and the future of professional education?