This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Jimmy Rollins—speaker, author, and former pastor who, alongside his wife Irene, spent 25 years in full-time ministry, including 10 years as Senior Pastor of i5 City.

They discuss the tension between external success and internal struggle, how easy it is to get comfortable in discomfort, and what it took for Jimmy to step away and rebuild from the inside out. Miracles can happen in a moment, but restoration takes a process.

Jimmy shares his journey of hitting rock bottom, taking a year-long sabbatical, and learning that you can’t preach your triggers away—you have to lean into them to understand what they’re revealing. Now, through TWO=ONE, he and Irene are helping others build marriages, families, and lives that are whole—not just holding it together.

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