Today we're talking to author and journalist Michael Shellenberger, who has been drawing attention to the disaster zone that is San Francisco. Shellenberger wrote a book on the subject, "San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities," and explains how he was originally pushing for progressive policies until he saw their real-world effects. We discuss several problems plaguing the city, from homelessness to drugs to homicide. Shellenberger also details the history and destructive philosophy that led San Francisco to its current state.

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Timecodes:

(0:00) Intro

(9:08) Interview with Michael Shellenberger

(57:03) Outro

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