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In this episode with Scott Chappell we discuss his journey in the fire service, the importance of leadership, structure, and personal development. Highlighted are the challenges and lessons learned from the Smoke Diver program, the significance of teamwork, and the need for continuous self-assessment in one's career. Scott shares insights on how to navigate the complexities of leadership while maintaining humility and the value of asking questions. The conversation emphasizes that the fire service is just one chapter in a person's life, and it's essential to embrace growth and change.