In this episode I speak with Dennis S. Charney, MD, Dean of the Icahn School of Medicine and President for Academic Affairs for the Mount Sinai Health System and Jonathan M. DePierro, PhD, Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and Associate Director of Mount Sinai's Center for Stress, Resilience, and Personal Growth. They are the co-authors of "Resilience: The Science of Mastering Life's Greatest Challenges, third edition," dedicated to their late third author, Steven M. Southwick, M.D., which is possibly the definitive book on the topic. Their wakeup calls came from violent traumas they each suffered and tested their resilience. https://www.amazon.com/Resilience-Science-Mastering-Greatest-Challenges/dp/1009299743/